Identifying the original user that sent the email is another great advantage of Declude Junkmail.  We add a customer header to the message so we can track it.  Doesn't work for lists, unfortunately, due to IMail's handling of the list explosion, but does at least identify to which list the original message went sent.  For all others, we check the header and contact the users to let them know not to report messages we forward for them as spam in AOL.  After three warnings in a relatively time period we remove their forwarding, forcing them to pick up mail directly from our servers instead.

Darin.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] AOL

The feedback loop mentioned is for sure and it�s a really good thing to do with AOL. It will keep you off their blocked list and let you know when there are problems. The one bad thing is that they only show what address on your email server it came from but not the address it was going to. We�ve had issues where a user has email forwarded to their AOL email account from their email account on our email server. Then some spammer sends a spam to their account on our machine and forwards to their AOL account, then they mark it as spam and AOL send us a message as if it came from us. Another issue is some of our clients that email several AOL clients about legitimate issues, and one reports it as junk mail, these things can be a pain to manually trace out when they omit what AOL address it�s going to and being reported from.

 

In any case it�s way better than ending up on their blocked list like we did at one time. If you get there it will take considerable time and effort to be removed again!

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Bruner
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:21 AM
To: Imail Forum
Subject: [IMail Forum] AOL

 

1) Our Vice President started getting these about a week ago. As many as 6 a day. So she asked me what was going on. I told her there was a spammer using her email address in the from field and there was nothing i could do about that other that block the AOL bounce messages. Am i correct here in saying that? Here is the bounce...

 

 

****** 67.114.195.162 is not on my network nor is it my user******

****** It appears to me that this user above 67.x.x.x is performing a dictionary attack on AOL with my users email address as the sender******

 

The original message was received at Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:37:47 -0500 (EST) from adsl-67-114-195-162.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [67.114.195.162]

 

*** ATTENTION ***

Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section

labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----".

The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section

labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----".

The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers.

Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator.

--AOL Postmaster

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to

air-xk02.mail.aol.com.:

>>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

<<< 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND

550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown

 

2) Then she replies back to me saying that she contacted AOL second level support.... this is what they told her...

 

They said we potentially have a port open and/or a worm/Trojan that is allowing this. They said we should run a full virus scan on every computer in the network to make sure they are clean.

They also said you can go to postmaster.aol.com and set up a feedback loop so you will be notified anytime anyone from our network sends something into aol that they consider spam. They said it will create a whitelist that will let you track the sender as well as being notified of how often this is happening.

Can someone confirm that my explanation to her is valid?

 

TIA

 

Jim W. Bruner

Network Admin.

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