Hello,

I would really, really, like to see RunRev include a scrolling list dialog,
without having to use a field or another stack.  The prime example is the
ShowList external available for HyperCard.  You can see a version of this in
the HC PowerTools stack.  This would be of major enabler for me to be able
to convert over to Revolution.

Many thanks,
 
Joseph

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> 1. Re: feature request (Kevin Miller)
> 2. formattedWidth: no more problem! (guy jacquesson)
> 3. Re: feature request (Scott Rossi)
> 4. type 3 error (Steve Messimer)
> 5. Menu selection bug (Michael J. Lew)
> 6. Re: type 3 error (Geoff Canyon)
> 7. BUG: new/delete ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 8. Re: Menu selection bug (Sarah Reichelt)
> 9. Re: feature request (Ken Ray)
> 10. Re: feature request (Scott Rossi)
> 11. Re: feature request (Ken Ray)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 17:19:19 +0000
> Subject: Re: feature request
> From: Kevin Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On 5/2/02 2:23 pm, Steve Messimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I would really love to see the implementation of a scrolling container that
>> isn't a field.
>> 
>> You've all seen these before.  The are often used to store graphics or
>> icons. I suppose that this is a feature that could be added as a property of
>> a stack window.
> 
> Use a scrolling group (or even script this behavior using a scroll bar
> object depending on what you are doing).  You can't scroll the window
> because you would scroll the menu bar off the screen on some platforms.  You
> can scroll a scrolling group in pointer tool mode and access the controls
> inside using the select grouped controls feature on the toolbar.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> Kevin Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.runrev.com/>
> Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer!
> Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165.  Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 20:39:33 +0200
> Subject: formattedWidth: no more problem!
> From: guy jacquesson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> hello,
> 
> I'm very sorry about my last message...
> The code of my handler was stupid.
> Here is the new one, much simpler, and no more problems!
> 
> on setstackFormat dicoName
> set the width of stack dicoName to the formattedWidth of fld  1
> set the height of stack dicoName to the formattedHeight of fld 1
> set topLeft of fld 1 to "0,0"
> end setStackFormat
> 
> I am very confused to have been suspicious about the formattedWidth
> function!
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:25:47 -0800
> Subject: Re: feature request
> From: Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 06:23  AM, Steve Messimer wrote:
> 
>> I would really love to see the implementation of a scrolling container
>> that
>> isn't a field.
> 
> The cool thing about MC/REV is that you can build your own -- pretty
> much anything that you can place on a card can be scrolled. And by
> grouping objects you can scroll combinations of objects: fields,
> buttons, images, etc.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director, Tactile Media
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.tactilemedia.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 14:45:32 -0500
> Subject: type 3 error
> From: Steve Messimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: improve-revolution list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> First of all may apologies iif this has already appeared on the list...
> 
> When I quit an application I am building. I get a type 3 error.  This never
> occurs when the application is actually running...just when it quits.
> 
> Rev Info: Rev v 1.1
> 
> System Info:
> 
> Mac OS 9.1, 450 MHz G-4, 512 MB RAM
> 
> Anyone else have this problem?
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:25:22 +1100
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: "Michael J. Lew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Menu selection bug
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Rev 1.1.1b1 on Mac iBook OS 9.2 and Mac PowerBook 3400 OS 8.6
> 
> Make a new stack, new menubar using the menu manager, a new menu
> with two menu items. Check the "Set as Menu Bar on Mac OS" box. Set
> the script of the menu to:
> 
> on menuPick
> put the selectedLine of me
> end menuPick
> 
> Now select the first item: message says "line 1 of button 3". Select
> the second item: message says "line 1 of button 3". Select the second
> item again: message now says "line 2 of button 3". Reselecting the
> first item now says "line 2 of button 3".
> 
> It takes two tries to get the right selection information; I'm pretty
> sure that is a bug.
> 
> Now unset the "Set as Menu  Bar on Mac OS" box. The menu now works properly!
> 
> A standalone using the Mac menu behaviour shows the same behaviour.
> 
> (All I wanted was to put a checkmark in front of the selected menu item)
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Michael J. Lew
> 
> Senior Lecturer
> Department of Pharmacology
> The University of Melbourne
> Parkville 3010
> Victoria
> Australia
> 
> Phone +613 8344 8304
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 17:00:59 -0800
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: "Geoff Canyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: type 3 error
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> At 2:45 PM -0500 2/5/02, Steve Messimer wrote:
>> First of all may apologies iif this has already appeared on the list...
>> 
>> When I quit an application I am building. I get a type 3 error.  This never
>> occurs when the application is actually running...just when it quits.
>> 
>> Rev Info: Rev v 1.1
>> 
>> System Info:
>> 
>> Mac OS 9.1, 450 MHz G-4, 512 MB RAM
> 
> There's a problem with tool tips in the current version that is most likely
> behind this -- the symptoms match. I believe the upcoming beta (not the one
> that is currently available) is supposed to fix this. For now, get rid of
> them.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Geoff
> 
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> Message: 7
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 19:04:28 -0600
> Subject: BUG: new/delete
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> This takes Rev out with a soft crash:
> 
> repeat 100 times
> new inv button -- or other object
> delete last button
> end repeat
> 
> From what I could tell, a single new and delete has some chance of crashing,
> so doing it 100 times is a sure thing. (Mac 8.6, Rev 111B1)
> 
> Curry Kenworthy
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 11:38:48 +1000
> Subject: Re: Menu selection bug
> From: Sarah Reichelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I haven't tested this, but it sounds as if the selection is being set AFTER
> the menuPick event.
> 
> Try checking the parameter passed to menuPick - that will give you the name
> of the selected menuItem and you could use lineOffset to find the line
> number.
> 
> Alternatively, try reading the menuHistory. I have only used this for
> setting a popup, but it deals with line numbers rather than text.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sarah
> 
>> 
>> Rev 1.1.1b1 on Mac iBook OS 9.2 and Mac PowerBook 3400 OS 8.6
>> 
>> Make a new stack, new menubar using the menu manager, a new menu
>> with two menu items. Check the "Set as Menu Bar on Mac OS" box. Set
>> the script of the menu to:
>> 
>> on menuPick
>> put the selectedLine of me
>> end menuPick
>> 
>> Now select the first item: message says "line 1 of button 3". Select
>> the second item: message says "line 1 of button 3". Select the second
>> item again: message now says "line 2 of button 3". Reselecting the
>> first item now says "line 2 of button 3".
>> 
>> It takes two tries to get the right selection information; I'm pretty
>> sure that is a bug.
>> 
>> Now unset the "Set as Menu  Bar on Mac OS" box. The menu now works properly!
>> 
>> A standalone using the Mac menu behaviour shows the same behaviour.
>> 
>> (All I wanted was to put a checkmark in front of the selected menu item)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Michael J. Lew
>> 
>> Senior Lecturer
>> Department of Pharmacology
>> The University of Melbourne
>> Parkville 3010
>> Victoria
>> Australia
>> 
>> Phone +613 8344 8304
>> 
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> Message: 9
> From: "Ken Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: feature request
> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 21:25:58 -0600
> Organization: Sons of Thunder Software
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> True. The only thing I really miss from SuperCard is a "simple" way of
> creating a scrolling window. In SC you could set the background to be larger
> than the window, set the window style to "scrolling", and there you go. The
> scrollbar on the window would manage moving the background around.
> 
> Yes, I know, you can create a group, size it to the size of the card, put
> objects in the group and scroll it, but then you have a bunch of management
> (new objects need to be created "in" the group or they don't scroll, you
> have to resize the group manually, etc.).
> 
> Any chance of something simple? The ability to set the card size to be
> larger than the window size and then set a style property of a window?
> Please?
> 
> :-)
> 
> Ken Ray
> Sons of Thunder Software
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> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: feature request
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 06:23  AM, Steve Messimer wrote:
>> 
>>> I would really love to see the implementation of a scrolling container
>>> that
>>> isn't a field.
>> 
>> The cool thing about MC/REV is that you can build your own -- pretty
>> much anything that you can place on a card can be scrolled. And by
>> grouping objects you can scroll combinations of objects: fields,
>> buttons, images, etc.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Scott Rossi
>> Creative Director, Tactile Media
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://www.tactilemedia.com
>> 
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 21:10:54 -0800
> Subject: Re: feature request
> From: Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Recently, Ken Ray wrote:
> 
>> The only thing I really miss from SuperCard is a "simple" way of
>> creating a scrolling window. In SC you could set the background to be larger
>> than the window, set the window style to "scrolling", and there you go. The
>> scrollbar on the window would manage moving the background around.
> 
> Touche.  Too bad MC groups don't have a scroll property...
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> 
> Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web: www.tactilemedia.com
> 
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> Message: 11
> From: "Ken Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: feature request
> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 23:49:42 -0600
> Organization: Sons of Thunder Software
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Scott,
> 
>> Recently, Ken Ray wrote:
>> 
>>> The only thing I really miss from SuperCard is a "simple" way of
>>> creating a scrolling window. In SC you could set the background to be
> larger
>>> than the window, set the window style to "scrolling", and there you go.
> The
>>> scrollbar on the window would manage moving the background around.
>> 
>> Touche.  Too bad MC groups don't have a scroll property...
> 
> Oh, is that what the "HorizontalSB" and "VerticalSB" checkboxes mean? ;-)
> 
> Of *course* MC groups have a scroll property, but as I mentioned before,
> it's not as simple to work with as SC's...
> 
> Just my $0.02,
> 
> Ken Ray
> Sons of Thunder Software
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
> 
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