I would also be very interested to learn more details regarding the
instances where this approach is or is not acceptable.  This approach is
nicely explained and demonstrated by Paul Allison in his SAGE text on
MI.  I have used this approach routinely when an interaction term is
important to the testable hypothesis in a multivariable model (i.e.,
split on the dichotomous X1 variable with little or no missing data,
perform MI stratified on the X1 variable and X1 falls out of the MI
model, then recombine the stratified MI data for analysis).  Thanks.
 
Craig
 
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Assistant Professor
Department of Emergency Medicine
Department of Public Health & Preventative Medicine
Oregon Health & Science University
3181 Sam Jackson Park Road
Mail Code CR-114
Portland, OR 97239-3098
(503) 494-1668 (Office)
(503) 494-4640 (Fax)
[email protected]


>>> "Patrick S. Malone" <[email protected]> 6/9/2004 6:55:40 AM
>>>

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 08:04:40 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time), Rod Little 

<[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Paul: this is an interesting issue. For the specific case you
> outline, the X1Y interaction should be included; a simple strategy
would
> be to simply stratify on X1 and impute Y and X2 separately in the
two
> strata. That strategy only applies in limited situations though. Rod
>

Rod,

Could you elaborate, please, on the limited situations?  I use that  
approach fairly routinely in intervention studies -- imputing
separately  
by condition, to preserve treatment X initial status (or whatever)  
interactions.

Thanks,
Pat Malone

-- 
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Duke University Center for Child and Family Policy
Durham, North Carolina, USA
e-mail: [email protected]
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From JUDKIND1 <@t> westat.com  Thu Jun 10 08:25:52 2004
From: JUDKIND1 <@t> westat.com (David Judkins)
Date: Sun Jun 26 08:25:02 2005
Subject: [Impute] Interactions
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

I imagine that Rod's caveat has to do with the variety of missing data
patterns.  Stratifying on X1 works only if it is never missing.  If all
three variables having some missing data and the structure of missingness is
not nested, then more complex approaches are required.  With a total of just
three variables, it is feasible to develop a different strategy for each
pattern as in my 1993 SSRM Proceedings paper with Fahimi, Khare and
Ezzati-Rice.  If there were more variables, then it would make more sense to
use a cyclic imputation method - either one of the Bayesian methods
developed by Joe Schafer or the semi-parametric method that I developed (see
the Marker, Judkins and Winglee chapter in Survey Nonresponse.)  

 

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From: Craig Newgard [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 1:47 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Impute] Interactions

 

I would also be very interested to learn more details regarding the
instances where this approach is or is not acceptable.  This approach is
nicely explained and demonstrated by Paul Allison in his SAGE text on MI.  I
have used this approach routinely when an interaction term is important to
the testable hypothesis in a multivariable model (i.e., split on the
dichotomous X1 variable with little or no missing data, perform MI
stratified on the X1 variable and X1 falls out of the MI model, then
recombine the stratified MI data for analysis).  Thanks.

 

Craig

 

Craig D. Newgard, MD, MPH
Assistant Professor
Department of Emergency Medicine
Department of Public Health & Preventative Medicine
Oregon Health & Science University
3181 Sam Jackson Park Road
Mail Code CR-114
Portland, OR 97239-3098
(503) 494-1668 (Office)
(503) 494-4640 (Fax)
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 


>>> "Patrick S. Malone" <[email protected]> 6/9/2004 6:55:40 AM >>>

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 08:04:40 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time), Rod Little  
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Paul: this is an interesting issue. For the specific case you
> outline, the X1Y interaction should be included; a simple strategy would
> be to simply stratify on X1 and impute Y and X2 separately in the two
> strata. That strategy only applies in limited situations though. Rod
>

Rod,

Could you elaborate, please, on the limited situations?  I use that  
approach fairly routinely in intervention studies -- imputing separately  
by condition, to preserve treatment X initial status (or whatever)  
interactions.

Thanks,
Pat Malone

-- 
Patrick S. Malone, Ph.D., Research Scholar
Duke University Center for Child and Family Policy
Durham, North Carolina, USA
e-mail: [email protected]
http://www.duke.edu/~malone/ <http://www.duke.edu/~malone/> 

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From von-hippel.1 <@t> osu.edu  Thu Jun 10 12:45:49 2004
From: von-hippel.1 <@t> osu.edu (Paul von Hippel)
Date: Sun Jun 26 08:25:02 2005
Subject: [Impute] Re: Interactions
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

I suspect Rod meant that stratifying on X1 is straightforward in the 
setting I proposed, where there was a single, dichotomous X1 with, 
presumably, a reasonable number of both 0s and 1s. If X1 has a lot of 
different values, then breaking the sample into reasonable sized strata is 
not so straightforward. Ditto if there are several interacting variables.

At 01:00 PM 6/10/2004, you wrote:
> >>> "Patrick S. Malone" <[email protected]> 6/9/2004 6:55:40 AM
> >>>
>
>On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 08:04:40 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time), Rod Little 
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Dear Paul: this is an interesting issue. For the specific case you
> > outline, the X1Y interaction should be included; a simple strategy
>would
> > be to simply stratify on X1 and impute Y and X2 separately in the
>two
> > strata. That strategy only applies in limited situations though. Rod
> >
>
>Rod,
>
>Could you elaborate, please, on the limited situations?  I use that
>approach fairly routinely in intervention studies -- imputing
>separately
>by condition, to preserve treatment X initial status (or whatever)
>interactions.
>
>Thanks,
>Pat Malone


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