Peter, We all need to rant and the current status of the club is a rant that could be a thousand pages long. Your email was very good. Spoke from the heart and it should hit home to all Anti-Glazer fans. Myself? I am the only United fan in my small rural Irish town who is boycotting any chance I get to go to a match, replica jerseys post Glazer, Budweiser, Ladbrokes, Pepsi and Vodafone. They say I'm extreme. Well I suppose I am but I told them all that the club was in turmoil the minute the yanks crossed the hallowed threshold. Now look at us. On the pitch, Ferguson must shoulder the blame. The Keane saga, 4-5-1, his boss Carlos etc. But I do think the long term destruction of the football club has come with the Glazers. I am sure they were delighted to save the £90,000 a week they paid Keane. We now have no Champions League for Spring: thats ok they'll say, we'll just offload Ruud van Nsitelrooij and save a few bucks that way. I drew up a 5 year plan when they took over and the final point of it I compared with Leeds United. With the Glazers' there I am sure we WILL be playing first division football in 5 years. Negative? You bet your life. But I cannot see a rosy future. I can see us not qualifying at all for the CL next season, and that is how it starts. A sad time for us, my friends.
Again, Pete, thanks for opening your heart. Baz --- Peter Hargreaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wrote this as a 'brain dump' - can't get my head > together at the moment. No > structure, no grammar - just an outpouring that I > have been wanting to do > for ages and just couldn't make a start on. I had to > do it by way of an > apology (to a fellow Red) as it happens. > > I'm just SO pissed off with the whole situation. > There is NO doubt in my > mind that there are certain groups (some within us) > that ARE Glazer > 'apologists' - Glazer 'supporters'. What the > justification is I know not - > I think they fall into several categories. > > Let us take the SEFlags group for instance. Mostly > decent people, proper > Reds. But either they are totally misguided and > naive, OR they are > ingratiating themselves with that twat Gill in order > to curry some sort of > favour with those absolute cunts. > > Gill and his mates are slippery, slimy sods who know > how to play the game. > Asking for the flags to be replaced at the Stretford > End was a part of > their "Look everything's alright under the Glazers" > strategy. SEFlags fell > right into their hands. Gill MUST have been thrilled > to bits to have a > group of Reds 'on his side'. Theirs was a BIG > misjudgment which they will, > in the fullness of time, come to regret. Knowing > some of them as I do, I > KNOW that. > > Also there can be no doubt that they (the > Board/Glazer) WILL have 'plants' > on this and other Lists/Forums. These people are the > ones of the 'let us > wait and see' brigade. These are the ones saying > that Glazer and his > bastard spawn will ultimately be good for the Club. > > Even our cat, Bert, knows that that will NOT be the > case. Glazer is the end > for our Club. I have never been more certain of > anything in my life. > > There is nothing to 'WAIT' for. It is HERE - it HAS > happened. We owe so > much money that there is not a hope in hell that we > are going in any > direction but 'down' as did Leeds United. > > Where is the money going to come from to pay back > such HUGE debts? > > The bubble has burst as far as football is > concerned. I judge this by > looking at the two Clubs I have ALWAYS used as the > benchmark. Manchester > United is not one of those Clubs. Manchester United > has ALWAYS been the > best supported Club in the land. When I was a boy it > was because we were > totally committed Reds - these days it is because of > the day-trippers. No, > the two Clubs are Aston Villa and Sunderland. When > they can't draw a crowd > then there IS a problem. > > There IS a problem. > > The FA, PL and the Clubs HAVE to put out positive > spin for not to do would > be to admit to the problem and thus widen the > existing cracks. At Old > Trafford, Anson is so typical of this type of > bollocks spin merchant. > Evidence his 'positive' statements relating to the > several major setbacks > for our Club recently. On the other hand Townsend > (the OT publicity man) > is, I think, a decent man and he has been far less > obvious is spouting the > shite. But you KNOW that should push come to shove > Townsend would be just > as bad as the rest for he has to protect his arse > too. > > What the FA, PL, nor Gill and his twat mates will > NEVER understand is that > day-trippers will piss off as quickly as they > arrived. For the DT's it is > nothing more than a fad. Once the novelty is gone so > will they be. > > I've seen it happen before. There were DT's of a > different type in the > 60's. DT's for a specific reason. Once the going got > tough - either results > or hooliganism - they disappeared. > > The statistics prove me correct. > > We, on the other hand, will always be 'there'. I put > the 'there' in speech > marks because it will not be long before I can't > afford to go to Old > Trafford any more. Gill and Anson will be delighted > to see me piss off as > they will fill my seat (the seat I've sat in since > 1970) with a > megastore-spending, daytripper. They will rub their > hands. I wonder if they > might actually pay me to piss off. > > Makes you think doesn't it. > > But what will happen when the Club has gone a few > years without winning > anything (significant). It happened for me between > 1969 and 1993. It NEVER > stopped me from going. Even Sexton, who took me to > the edge, failed to do > that. > > But will it stop the DT's? OF COURSE IT BLOODY WILL. > > And what happens to Manchester United then? What > happens when I'm priced > out and the DT's have stopped going. Who pays back > the loan then? > > Might it be shirt sales in the USA or the Far East? > My arse. There is more > chance of me becoming the next Pope than that > happening. > > The American market is 'saturated'. There is far too > much vested interest > to EVER allow football (soccer) to get established > big time there (other > than kids and women). And if it did take off (it > won't) then it might well > be Chelsea and the Scousers who are ready to cash > in. No, in the USA the > base we have (and they are ALL fantastic and > dedicated Reds) is what we > will have for the foreseeable future. > > As for the Far East - well if you are earning > sixpence a week and a shirt > (from the Club) costs £40 are you going to buy one? > Er..... no. Feeding > your family might be of greater importance. (In many > respects my own > situation if (IF!!!!!) they increase ticket prices > again). You might, > however, buy a 'copy' shirt from your mate round the > corner for twopence. > > But would Gill and Anson admit that? Of course they > wouldn't - BECAUSE they > can't fucking see it - that's why. > > Or they CAN see it and will ignore it for as long as > they can as they want > to stay in post until they can line up a more > lucrative position in another > company. Manchester United means fuck all to them. > It is merely a stepping > stone in their career progression. > > Will they care that a poor, working-class lad will > have to stop going after > over FIFTY years of TOTAL support. Will they fuck. > They'll just look down > on the poor boy. They, after all, are very rich men. > Where has that money > come from. Oh yes - the poor boy and his mates. What > twats they are. > > The Board KNEW that the shirt-sales thing had come > to an end. They told > Glazer that much. Letting Beckham go gave Madrid the > shirt-sales anyway. > Glazer, being an arrogant twat (and a bully-boy), of > course, thought he > knew better. Perhaps Glazer will discount shirts out > of his own pocket for > those in the poorer places. Perhaps Glazer will tell > me "I'll discount your > ST so Bert et al can have their cat food". Perhaps > that 'cow WILL fly over > the moon'! > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/GtUolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Please use [email protected] for general discussion. 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