> ...Many sage words from various people elided...
> I thought we're talking about making /bin/sh being ksh93, NOT bash
> Using bash would be the wrong direction. Indiana should make thinks
> BETTER than Linux.
Perhaps different people are talking about slightly different things.
Here's my attempt at disentanglement.
1) High order goal (perhaps the highest for Indiana) remove barriers
to entry for the Linux trained.
A) Highest order goal for Solaris (classic) don't ever break anything
For (1) I think the primary discussion has been about what default
shell to provide to user (as an exemplar of this goal, clearly it
flows into many decisions).
For the question of what to do about /bin/sh (especially since it's
encumbered) I don't think that having it be ksh93 should be a
showstopper for the Linux newcomer ... we might be sports and have
the default prompt be something other than a simple # for root to
make it explicit that we're in ksh93 (e.g. ksh93#).
Perhaps more entertainingly, can we somehow make RBAC work invisbily
enough that for the "standard" developer desktop that a special sudo
is just a default shell function which does the right pfexec (or
pfksh or whatever the ideal syntax is) and have the SXDE/Indiana
default be to create a user account which has the right privs?
Retraining their fingers (and minds) is a huge barrier as Tim aptly
noted. Migrating them to a better facility (if to a first
approximation it does the "same" thing for the 99% use cases) can be
a compelling story.
However, if it's "better" but different in the first N things the
poor user tries, it's not likely to be used enough for the
"betterness" to matter.
Keith H. Bierman [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Strategic Engagement Team | AIM:
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<speaking for myself, not Sun*> Copyright 2007
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