On 2/16/08, W. Wayne Liauh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Feb 15, 2008 8:44 PM, Alan Coopersmith
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Dave Miner wrote:
> > > >> Screenshot 03: First screen of Indy2 LiveCD
> > running in SXDE4,
> > > >> selecting keyboard.  (This screen has a very
> > serious political
> > > >> ramification, I have submitted a bug report,
> > someone better pay some
> > > >> attention, or at least not show Indiana to any
> > Chinese officials.)
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the reminder, I've transferred that
> > bug to Bugster so that we
> > > > can get kbd -s fixed.
> > >
> > > I must be missing the bug there - clearly that's a
> > list of regional keyboard
> > > variants, not national ones, since there are no
> > nations of Latin America or
> > > French Canada.
> >
> > The bug here is China's political sensitivities
> > regarding Taiwan, that
> > and the selection really isn't done in the correct
> > way. It's being
> > done based on nationality instead of language.
> >
> > --
> > Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
> > http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
>
> Hi Shawn,
>
> This problem is actually much more serious than we discussed in our private 
> mails.  As we know, there are two versions of written Chinese languages, 
> traditional Chinese (繁体中文*, used in Taiwan, Hong Kong & Singapore) and 
> simplified Chinese (简体中文, used in mainland China).    Both are Chinese (中文).  
> I have never heard anyone calling the traditional Chinese "Taiwanese" (台湾文)。
>
> There is, however, a very obscure (to say the least) "Taiwanese language", 
> which is a Romanized Taiwanese dialect of the (spoken) Chinese language, see, 
> e.g.:
>
> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/taiwanese.htm
>
> A friend of mine who is a professor at the University of Hawaii, was one of 
> the creators of the Taiwanese (written) language, but hardly anyone knows of, 
> or care about, its existence, not to mention any chance of using it, except a 
> few hard-core pro-Taiwan-independence extremists.  Supporting this group is 
> against the United States policy:
>
> http://usinfo.state.gov/eap/Archive/2006/Jan/31-671973.html
>
> I don't think we should even remotely get into a situation where we may be 
> perceived as taking one political side against another.  Fortunately, the 
> solution to this issue is a no-brainer: the keyboard referred to in Indiana 
> is definitely no "Taiwanese keyboard" (as I mentioned above, practically no 
> one knows what it means), it is a Chinese keyboard.  It can be used to input 
> both traditional and simplified Chinese characters.  This keyboard was 
> developed in Taiwan initially for the input of traditional Chinese.  But this 
> is no reason to call it a Taiwanese keyboard, or even a traditional Chinese 
> keyboard.
>
> * I was trying to type up traditional Chinese characters here, but Solaris is 
> so totally screwed up in inputting traditional Chinese characters, I decided 
> to give up.  Typically I switched to SuSE when I have to use traditional 
> Chinese.
>
> (As I mentioned some time ago in a separate thread, I took a legal action on 
> behalf of our client, the national applied research labs of Taiwan, against 
> the Treasure Department in 1995 because the Patent and Trademark Office 
> labeled Taiwan "A Province of China".  We prevailed in very quickly forcing 
> the Patent Office to remove this designation.  This is the opposite end of 
> what we are doing in Indiana.  Both situations should be avoided.
>
> It is, of course, unwise to trust what I said.  Since I sensed no one in the 
> developer corps is really familiar with this issue, the only wise way is to 
> see what others are doing.  Novell has a relatively well established sales 
> force in China.  Perhaps someone should look at what SuSE is doing re 
> keyboard locale name designations.  Windows and Mac should also be consulted.)

Excellent write up.
At first even I didn't understand your concern, now I do.

Thanks.

Tao
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