> > I guess I am beginning to wonder what's the purpose > of Indiana? > > To provide an intuitive user experience right through > download, install and > configuration so that it can get to the environment > you want it to be eg. Ruby > on Rails developer. We're not going to solve the > world with a default install, > but if we can make it a relatively pleasant place to > be to enable others to do > easily useful things with it, then I think we'll be > making progress. > > > Glynn > _______________________________________________ > indiana-discuss mailing list > indiana-discuss at opensolaris dot org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-d > iscuss
Thanks for the reply. I must admit that this is where I am getting so hopelessly confused: To achiece the things you described, I can do it myself--there is no need for Indiana (thou not on the Solaris platform), and indeed there are tons of other Linux developers who can do a better job than I. As such, I am also puzzled by the conspicuously missing of links (i.e., mentionings) to Sun and Solaris. There is a quite significant number of us who came to this forum because of Sun. While I can't help keeping making a fool of myself, most of us are silent observers. And I also don't understand why we should be so obsessed in trying so hard to develop a platform for, say, RoR developers. Do we have any idea how many of them will come, if any, even if we pledge to give them our first-born sons? I have always thought Indiana is very significant because it will be a legally-redistributable CDDL-based Solaris supported by a reputable heavyweight vendor (i.e., Sun). The term “Solaris” is significant because it combines both maturity/stability and emerging technologies for an adoption-led market environment. “CDDL” is significant because it allows hardware vendors to have their proprietary drivers (oftentimes, rightly or wrongly, they consider hardware specs their main asset) conveniently incorporated into the kernel. Finally, “Sun” is significant because it allows independent vendors who may be interested in jumping onto the Indiana wagon to, at least initially, shed their market scalability concern (i.e., if I become too big too quick, I can always try to talk to “Sun”) and link their services with many of Sun's other offerings (hardware, Java, storage, virturalization, MySQL, etc., etc.) Please do not take my rumblings negatively; I have made enough enemies in this forum that I am very apprehensive about antagonizing anyone again. This thread is headered as “brainstorm”. I don't know whether the above is qualified as a “brain” storm, but at least a plea that, since so much effort has gone into the development of Indiana, perhaps the voices of those little guys of us can also be given a little bit weight. All we want is that Indiana developers/designers be considerate enough to try to give us a little pride, i.e., think of the pride that we will have when we give “Sun's” OpenSolaris CD to our associates/friends and/or customers. All the great features that Indiana has, e.g., easy installation, nice GUI, etc., will be more appreciated if there are words that we can quote that link them to Sun's other products. Again, I understand your desire to separate Indiana from Sun. But I doubt anyone will be so naive to ignore the connection. Thus, instead of trying to do the impossible, why not making this connection an advantage? E.g., making Indiana also an exemplary standard-bearer Java platform so that other Linux distros can follow? This will make at least a lot of us very happy. Just a thought anyway. Thanks. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org _______________________________________________ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
