Josh Simons wrote:
On Nov 14, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Jenya Gestrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Frank Ludolph wrote:
Josh Simons wrote:
On Nov 13, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Michal Pryc wrote:
Michal Pryc wrote:
Josh Simons wrote:
Why is the Add button on the Manage Repositories pane is greyed out,
implying I cannot add a new package source? Is this a permissions
issue or something else?
There two possibilities:
- You didn't selected (check box in the list) any package that can be
installed/updated.
- You are running packagemanager without sufficient permissions (run
with gksu or pfexec on opensolaris) the Package Manager icon is
starting
application correctly.
Hi Josh,
Reply to myself.
The question was about Manage Repositories not Add/Update, so the
possibilities are as follows:
- You already have the same name for the repository
- You didn't specify correct URL address
- Your name for the repository contains incorrect values (spaces for
example)
best
Michal Pryc
Michal,
My issue is one of usability from a UI design perspective. Since the Add
button was greyed out, I assumed the companion fields were not active.
It is counterintuitive to me that filling in the fields would then
cause the
Add button to un-grey. (And only if I specified a correctly formatted
response.)
I asked a professional UI expert outside of Sun if this type of UI
behavior
was appropriate and she agreed that it would be confusing to users.
Not enabling an add/submit button until the 'form' is completed is a
common UI pattern. However, requiring valid field entries before
enabling the button is not. There must be more feedback to the user
about error conditions than just not enabling the button.
I would suggest that the Add button be enabled as soon as both
fields have non-blank content and that clicking Add will report, via
and alert, both the invalid field and what constitutes a vaild entry.
this is pretty much what it says in my annotations:
http://xdesign.sfbay.sun.com/projects/solaris/subprojects/package_mngt/UI_specs/ui_spec_phase2/html-mockup/43_repositories_dialog_2.htm
but I will rephrase the annotations according to your suggestions, Frank.
jenya
It still is not clear to me how a user is supposed to know the fields
are usable if Add is greyed out by default. When I looked at the
dialogue I assumed I did not have privs to add a repository. I didn't
even think to try typing in those fields.
it says right above the fields:
"Type the repository name and URL you want to add as a new package source."
disabling buttons is a very typical UI approach nowadays, both in rich
client and web application world. by disaling/enabling buttons we avoid
having excessive number of error dialogs.
Also, we try to design Package Manager GUI the way that if user does get
to open a dialog window, he automatically has all privileges to take
action on this dialog. It is a very sad think that you are used to 'not
having privs' while using GUIs - it doesn't speak very well of the
software you are using.
Josh
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