Hi, Glenn Lagasse píše v pá 16. 01. 2009 v 09:11 -0800: > * Paul Gress ([email protected]) wrote: > > Michael Schuster wrote: > > > Fredrich Maney wrote: > > > > > > > > >> I want Sun and the Solaris and OpenSolaris communities to realize that > > >> they have, bar none, the best OS on the planet > > >> > > > > > > You're preaching to the choir :-) > > > > > > it's the people who aren't in these communities that we want to convince, > > > and - or so I understand - giving them something (a lot of) them are > > > familiar with (even if it's "inferiour" to what many of "us" know) was > > > seen > > > as a valid step in that direction. > > > > > > thx for the support! > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > I've been reading this thread for a while now. Some of my thoughts are > > why can't you deliver both. In the install, just ask which > > personality/flavor you want "solaris classic or gnu". It's just a > > simple PATH variable to have it. If you really want to get creative, > > give a third choice, a mix to your liking, just link which binaries are > > chosen to a different directory, then put that directory first in the > > PATH variable. If you keep a text file of these links any future > > updates can read this and accommodate the new personality. One could > > even create a gui configuration to map out the personality that future > > updates can read. > > > > Now you have Opensolaris that can satisfy any user. > > The problem with this approach is one of usability. The Install > experience needs to be as simple as it can be. Asking questions of a > user that they can't understand (anyone remember the kerberos question > in the old installer?) merely confuses people. Making a newcomer to > OpenSolaris understand what 'solaris classic vs gnu' is during > installation is not easy from a UI standpoint imo. Not to mention > confusing. Merely having a toggle for instance is not nearly > informative enough to explain it to someone who has never used Solaris > and thus has no idea what enabling 'solaris classic' would get them. > And I'm not convinced that adding something more than just a toggle > necessarily solves the issue either. > > On the other hand, people who know what 'solaris classic' is can > probably figure out pretty easily how to get that behaviour after the > install. >
I do not understand just one small thing. OpenSolaris is targeting developers and hackers (not crackers). Usually developers are building on top of C++ or Java or webstack or some "modern" language. Those working in GUI frequently and they are trying to avoid shell as much as possible. As opposite, command-line utilities are mostly used by admins/scripts. Admins are able to learn (usually). Scripts need stability of environment to work. And we are thinking that hunderds of unused switches will make OpenSolaris more cool for newcommers. As opposite to provide compact environment and carefully evaluating which switches and features are really popular and usefull and used. The install switch is wrong solution. It will make 2 different OpenSolaris environments. Also, why is this discuss spamming ast-us...@? Best regards, Milan _______________________________________________ indiana-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
