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--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Abhiyya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Abhiyya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [TRF] 'To preserve our secular inheritance' - Interview with Mushirul 
Hasan, Vice-Chancellor
To: "news today" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 11:22 AM












"I will be the first person to quit if even a single student of my university 
is ever found expressing solidarity with terrorist activities anywhere”
 
- MUSHIRUL HASAN 
 
'To preserve our secular inheritance' 

PURNIMA S.TRIPATHI 
http://www.frontlin eonnet.com/ stories/20081024 252102800. htm





Interview with Mushirul Hasan, Vice-Chancellor, Jamia Millia Islamia, New 
Delhi. 




RAJEEV BHATT 
 
MUSHIRUL HASAN. HE says he will be the first to quit if any student is proven 
guilty. 


JAMIA MILLIA ISLAMIA in New Delhi, a Central university, has been in the news 
because of the recent arrest of two of its students for their alleged 
involvement in the bomb blasts in New Delhi and elsewhere. One of the alleged 
terrorists killed in the Jamia Nagar encounter in Delhi, Atif Ameen, had 
enrolled at the university only in August this year. 
Vice-Chancellor Professor Mushirul Hasan announced that the university would 
provide legal aid to its students who were arrested, a stand which was 
subsequently endorsed by Union Human Resource Development (HRD) Minister Arjun 
Singh. Hasan told Frontline that it was his personal decision because he felt 
as a teacher and as the head of an institution that it was his moral 
responsibility to stand by his students until the legal process reached its 
logical conclusion. 
A Padma Shri awardee who has written 11 books on Indian history, Hasan has 
presented many papers at world fora and is an authority on Islam, Partition and 
communalism. “I will be the first person to quit if even a single student of my 
university is ever found expressing solidarity with terrorist activities 
anywhere,” said Hasan. Excerpts from the interview:Everyone was surprised by 
your announcement that the university would provide legal aid to students 
arrested for their alleged involvement in the bomb blasts. What made you take 
this stand? 
These are only charges at the moment. Our jurisprudence dictates that one is 
innocent until proven guilty. This was my personal decision because I felt as a 
teacher and as the head of an institution, it was my moral responsibility. 
After all, is the teacher not considered the mai-baap [mother-father] by the 
students? I was only trying to calm nerves on the campus and assure my students 
and the faculty that nobody is denied his or her fundamental rights in this 
country. 
I have nothing to say on the encounter; it is outside my brief. But I had to 
come into the picture because three of our students were involved. I was 
concerned about its impact on the campus. How would you justify your stand, all 
the more because Jamia is a Central university and the BJP says you are 
spending taxpayers’ money to help terrorists? 
I owe no explanation or justification to anybody. Those who know me or are 
aware of my credentials will understand my decision. As for the criticism from 
the BJP, I take it as a certificate of my “good conduct”. Any words of 
appreciation from the BJP, in fact, would embarrass me. Their criticism is 
proof that I am on the right track. 
As for spending taxpayers’ money, this is not true. The funds are being 
contributed by the teachers voluntarily. There is a committee for this purpose. 
Besides, we have a students aid fund from which we regularly help students in 
situations like medical emergencies. We have spent from this fund for arranging 
bails in the case of an incident of violence in which 40 students were 
arrested. So this is not something we have done for the first time. But here 
the charges are of being involved in terrorist activities. 
That is still to be proved. I took the decision to foil the attempt by a 
section of the political parties and the media to damage the university’s 
image. Just because a couple of students have been implicated in cases, it does 
not make the entire university a nerve centre of terrorist activity. This 
vicarious attempt by a section to discredit the independent, pluralist and 
secular credentials of the university is unfortunate and it was to defeat this 
campaign that I took this stand. I owe no explanation for my conduct to 
anybody. 
After I decided, I merely informed the HRD Minister, UGC [University Grants 
Commission] Chairman, the Secretary and the Joint Secretary concerned. They are 
not obliged either to agree or disagree with me. My only intention is to defend 
and preserve the secular inheritance of our university and calm nerves. 
As for the students being accused of involvement in terrorist activities, let 
them be proven guilty first. The law of the land says that you are innocent 
until proven guilty. If they are proven guilty and convicted, good, bad and 
sad. They would deserve their punishment. But if they are exonerated, then also 
it is fine, no big cause for jubilation. I can assure you that if ever any of 
my students were found expressing solidarity with terrorism anywhere, I would 
be the first person to quit. The spirit of the university must not be 
compromised or tarnished by anyone whatsoever.What is the impact of the 
incident on the campus? 
Except for the first few days of nervous tension, the campus has been a model 
of exemplary behaviour. We had a massive peace march in which 9,000-10,000 
students participated. But yes, there is a sense of insecurity among students, 
which is true for both Hindu and Muslim students. Landlords in the neighbouring 
areas are asking our students to vacate their houses; the very sight of the 
police makes the students nervous. 
The university administration, however, is trying to instil a sense of security 
among the students. We asked the government to remove the police from the 
campus immediately afterwards. We are also trying to solve the hostel problem; 
we are building a new hostel for about 1,500 students, which should be ready in 
six to eight months. 
The biggest assurance, however, has been the fact that the faculty is solidly 
behind the administration and has been instrumental in restoring the faith and 
confidence of the locality in the honour and secular image of the university. 
They also feel that the impeccable reputation of the university cannot be 
damaged by isolated non-events like this. Has the incident affected the 
placement process? 

S. SUBRAMANIUM 
 
Students and teachers of Jamia Millia Islamia taking out a peace march in New 
Delhi on September 25. 

Unfortunately yes, some of our students have been asked embarrassing questions. 
Though this cannot be helped at the moment, I hope, with the passage of time, 
this will stop.Does it hurt you that despite having such an impeccable 
reputation you have to stand up and declare your secular credentials? 
Well, this cannot be helped, I guess. But I do hope that this phase is 
short-lived, as the problems in Punjab were. I do hope that this is a passing 
phase and will pass by without much damage to our great institution.The BJP has 
criticised you. Has any political party expressed solidarity with you? 
I don’t want to be involved in political battles. I am keen that political 
parties should not jump into the fray on this issue. We have not had any public 
meeting addressed by any political leader on the campus; we have not had any 
politicians visiting us. 
I wanted no political tamaasha [show], no rhetoric, no speeches, nothing. The 
ABVP [Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad, the student wing of the BJP] tried to 
enter the campus shouting slogans, but they were stopped outside. Are you 
convinced that your students are not guilty? Do you check their antecedents at 
the time of admission? 
What sort of an antecedent can a 19- or 20-year-old have? They mostly come from 
poor families, from far-off areas. As for these two [students], I can’t say 
until the investigations are complete. It may or may not be true, they might 
have been misled, brainwashed by vested interests. I cannot vouch for that. But 
it is not possible for us to check the antecedents of all students. We have no 
such agency at our disposal. In fact, we have no column in our admission forms 
even to identify students as Hindus or Muslims. •

With Regards 

Abi
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