... many many thanks Swagat ... what concerns me is the dimensions of the fruit !! (And that is where species differ visually ... much of the range is overlapping, thus not clearly a differentiating key) About the dimensions of the flowers ... they may help ... and I will try to measure the sizes of petals when I get to *Canavalia* plants.
Width of legumes: The Vegetables - Google Books Result<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=6jrlyOPfr24C&pg=PA153&lpg=PA153&dq=What+is+the+difference+between+Canavalia+gladiata+and+Canavalia+ensiformis&source=bl&ots=DoAglRQvZZ&sig=8SlFwHLNgrpLNcH_rjvtXWvngq8&hl=en&ei=mv8XSuC1NYSUkAXercTuDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10>states 3 cm, and cached contents of University of Florida, IFAS<http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:4yE_RVP5qZcJ:edis.ifas.ufl.edu/MV020+canavalia+ensiformis&cd=20&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=in>also puts the width to 1 inch These figures make me wonder whether the *Canavalia species* that I find in Thane district grow smaller sized legumes. If my visualization is not wrong, I think the width is max 2 cm, length is max 6 inches. I am assuming such variations are based on climatic conditions, habitat, &c. Regards. On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Swagat <[email protected]> wrote: > Here are some more differences..... > > > http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:4yE_RVP5qZcJ:edis.ifas.ufl.edu/MV020+canavalia+ensiformis&cd=20&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=in > > Regards, > > ~Swagat > 9223217568 > > 2009/5/23 Swagat <[email protected]> > > Dear all, >> >> Here are the differences.... please go through it.... >> >> Vegetables - Google Books >> Result<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=6jrlyOPfr24C&pg=PA153&lpg=PA153&dq=What+is+the+difference+between+Canavalia+gladiata+and+Canavalia+ensiformis&source=bl&ots=DoAglRQvZZ&sig=8SlFwHLNgrpLNcH_rjvtXWvngq8&hl=en&ei=mv8XSuC1NYSUkAXercTuDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10> >> by Backhuys Publishers, G. J. H. Grubben, O. A ... - 2004 - Vegetables - >> 667 pages >> Also, an analysis based on DNA data designed to distinguish legume species >> failed to find differences *between Canavalia ensiformis* and *Canavalia >> gladiata*. *...* >> books.google.co.in/books?isbn=9057821478*...* >> >> ** >> >> >> Regards, >> >> ~Swagat >> 9223217568 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> 2009/5/23 Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> >> ... many thanks Shekhar ji for info about genus name *Canavalia* being >>> derived from Malayalam ranavalia >>> I have a book - Scientific Names of Plants Explained by S. P. Dixit, >>> which states derivation from Malabar (Malayalam) *kana valli* (വല്ലിvalli >>> refers to climber / creeper) >>> >>> Malayalam knowing friends, please put some light here and it would be >>> great if you provide it in native script also. >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 5:12 PM, shekhar marathe < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Yes it is canavalia gladiata. derived from the malayalam name ranavalia >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >> 'I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I >> can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do.' - Helen >> Keller >> > > > > -- > 'I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can > do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do.' - Helen > Keller > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "indiantreepix" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
