Thanks Gurcharan ji Thanks a lot for your detail and very very informative note With Regards N.S.Dungriyal IFS Chief Conservator of Forests and Field Director Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad M.P. 09424792100
________________________________ From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> To: Nayan Singh <[email protected]> Cc: indiantreepix <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 3 September, 2009 6:32:10 PM Subject: [indiantreepix:17528] Re: ... Cassia ¿ species ? Nayan ji, your wild guess was correct in one sense. Cassia glauca Lam. and C. surattensis Burm.f. are both synonyms of now correctly known Senna surattensis (Burm.f.) Irwin & Barneby. At the finer level true surattensis with larger (2-4 inches) leafets in 4-6 pairs, pods 6-8 inches long and known as Senna surattensis (Burm.f.) Irwin & Barneby subsp. surattensis, whereas C. glauca Lam. (C. glauca var. suffruticosa Koenig in Flora of British India) with 6-9 pair of smaller leaflets (1-2 inches) and smaller pods (3-4 inches. is Senna surattensis (Burm.f.) Irwin & Barneby subsp. sulphurea (DC. ex Collad) Randell. And now an interesting one. C. glauca Lam. was published in 1789, whereas C. surattensis Burm.f. in 1768, and hence latter gets priority when two are treated as same species. At subspecies level, true surattensis is subsp. surattensis (no authority, as it is automatically created name if we treat C. glauca as distinct subspecies-it is autonym). and now you will ask why not to use subsp. glauca as name. Well Cassia glauca Lam, 1789 and C. sulphurea DC. ex Collad., 1816 are synonyms, and hence former is prefered, but when transferred to genus Senna (all 10 stamens perfect) Senna glauca Roxb., is already used for a different species, and sulphurea gets preference. I hope it was not very boring. . Dr. Gurcharan Singh Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College University of Delhi, Delhi India http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45 ----- Original Message ----- >From: Nayan Singh >To: Gurcharan Singh >Cc: indiantreepix >Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:22 AM >Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17454] Re: ... Cassia ¿ species ? > > >Gurcharan ji yesterday i id it as Cassia glauca, but some how it is missing in >the thread, what do you think about my this wild guess? >thanks > N.S.Dungriyal IFS >Chief Conservator of Forests >and Field Director >Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad >M.P. >09424792100 > > > > > ________________________________ From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >To: Yazdy Palia <[email protected]>; Kenneth Greby <[email protected]> >Cc: Indian Tree Pix <[email protected]>; Dinesh Valke ><[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, 3 September, 2009 12:19:53 AM >Subject: [indiantreepix:17454] Re: ... Cassia ¿ species ? > > >Not Cassia fistula atleast which has distinctive cylindrical long pods. This >one seems more probably C. surratensis, the only thing that looks different >to me is the thin long stalk of pod. The specimens in our garden don't have >such long stalks. Leaves and flowers resemble. > > >Dr. Gurcharan Singh >Associate Professor >SGTB Khalsa College >University of Delhi, Delhi >India >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45 >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Yazdy Palia" <[email protected]> >To: "Kenneth Greby" <[email protected]> >Cc: "Indian Tree Pix" <[email protected]>; "Dinesh Valke" ><[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:11 PM >Subject: [indiantreepix:17443] Re: ... Cassia ¿ species ? > > > >Hello friends, >could it be cassia fistula? Please check up >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Shower_Tree >Regards >Yazdy. > >On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Kenneth Greby<[email protected]> wrote: >> Dinesh-- >> >> I don't believe that this is Senna spectabilis (Syn S. excelsa, S. >> carnaval) due to the flattened seedpods. S. spectabilis has roundish to >> squared (in cross-section) pods with some muscilage present. >> >> This looks closer to S. surattensis, but I am not positive of that ID. >> >> Regards-- >> Ken Greby. >> >> --- On Wed, 9/2/09, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> Subject: [indiantreepix:17425] ... Cassia ¿ species ? >> To: "Indian Tree Pix" <[email protected]> >> Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 11:20 AM >> >> Hello friends, >> >> A large shrub of Cassia planted along an avenue near Yeoor Hills, photos >> taken on 22 AUG 09. >> >> My friend Ajinkya Gadave has already commented in Flickr about this plant >> to >> be Cassia spectabilis. >> Please validate ID. >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > > >________________________________ Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here. See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Yahoo! Buzz. http://in.buzz.yahoo.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "indiantreepix" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
