This doesn't look like Marsdenia tenacissima for the following
reasons:
1. The peduncle (the stalk carrying the flowers cluster) in the
picture looks nearly as long as a leaf. In Marsdenia tenacissima,
leaves are 8-10 cm long, whereas the peduncle is only up to 2 cm long.
Infact, leaf stalks are supposed to be longer than the peduncle.
2. The paired seedpods are stalkless here, whereas in the illustration
at Flora of China, they are clearly stalked, and of a different shape
too:
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=85989&flora_id=2
3. In Marsdenia tenacissima, the flowers are borne in branched
clusters, whereas in the pic here, they are in a very symmetric
cluster, reminiscent of Dregea volubilis.
Interestingly, the paired fruit of Dregea volubilis is stalkless. So,
it maybe something close to Dregea volubilis.
- Tabish
On Sep 4, 12:31 am, "Gurcharan Singh" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Here are the fruits, it probably finally confirms Marsdenia tenacissima.
> please verify.
>
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College
> University of Delhi, Delhi
> Indiahttp://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gurcharan Singh
> To: Dinesh Valke ; satish pardeshi ; Neil Soares
> Cc: Indian Tree Pix
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17294] Re: Dregea volubilis ID 310809GS1
>
> Thanks Satish ji
> I will concentrate on Marsdenia tenacissima and report back soon.
>
> Garg ji, with persons like Satish Valke, Satish Phadke. Dinesh, Devendra,
> Tabish, Neil, Prashant, Swagat, Nayan, Pankaj, Rani, Yazdi, Thiru (and
> several others actively contributing in the group), who have such a keen eye,
> zeal to investigate and not take a names published in Floras foregranted,
> the group has a great future. We should not be surprised if the real face of
> Indian Flora has a changed look soon. Recent interactions on the group give a
> strong indication that probably Indian Flora is much more and different than
> what we know at present.
> Not to forget the inputs of our keen photographers in the group, with
> little or no training in the study of plants, supplying a wide array of
> beautiful photographs from different parts of India.
>
> Please keep up the spirit.
>
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College
> University of Delhi, Delhi
> India
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dinesh Valke
> To: satish pardeshi ; Gurcharan Singh-sify ; Neil Soares
> Cc: Indian Tree Pix
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17294] Re: Dregea volubilis ID 310809GS1
>
> Below is Satish ji's response ...
>
> Gurcharan ji, you had rightly doubted about your plant being Dregea
> volubilis. Many thanks to you; an enlightening post.
> Please check Marsdenia tinacissima (syn. D. tinacissima) as pointed out
> by Satish ji.
>
> Regards.
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:20 PM, satish pardeshi
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello Dinesh Ji
> looking at the pic of the plant which you provided in the link
> i believe the plant is Marsdenia tinacissima ie D. tinacissima
>
> regards
> Satish Pardeshi
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dinesh Valke<[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Satish ji and friends, ... a search on internet, I found these links,
> > possibly may help in ID of Gurcharan ji's plant.
>
> > 1)http://www.plant.ac.cn/dan_tu/26/20897.htm
> > 2)http://www.plant.ac.cn/dan_tu/13/10834.htm
> > 3)
>
> >http://www.botanypictures.com/plantimages//marsdenia%20tenacissima%20...
>
> > Regards.
>
> > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Pardeshi S.
> <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Hello Singh Ji, Dinesh Ji and Neil Ji
> >> please check in Cooke's Flora
> >> it says
> >> Corolla hairy outside......Marsdenia tenacissima (Dregea Tenacissima)
> >> Corolla glabrous outside......M. volubilis
>
> >> the description of M. tenacissima: A large twinning shrub, old stem
> >> with grey corky bark, BRANCHLETS SOFTLY PUBESCENT.
>
> >> the description of M. volubilis: A large twinning shrub, older
> BRANCES
> >> GLABROUS.
> >> Hence i feel it can be Marsdenia tenacissima
> >> however i had not seen Marsdenia tenacissima, but collected Dregea
> >> volubilis and can say the pubescent plant is different that D.
> >> volubilis.
>
> >> regards
> >> Satish Pardeshi
>
> >> Neil Soares wrote:
> >> > Hi Prof. Singh & Dinesh,
> >> > Sending you some of my photographs for comparison.
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Neil Soares.
>
> >> > --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
> >> > Subject: [indiantreepix:17275] Re: Dregea volubilis ID 310809GS1
> >> > To: "Gurcharan Singh" <[email protected]>
> >> > Cc: "indiantreepix" <[email protected]>
> >> > Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 11:59 PM
>
> >> > ... I am afraid I cannot voice on that, Gurcharan ji.
> >> > I will take it as normal; however hoping some friend comes to
> rescue,
> >> > and validates :-)
>
> >> > Adding common names of this plant: cotton milk plant, green
> milkweed
> >> > climber, green wax flower, sneezing silk • Assamese: খমল লতা
> khamal lata •
> >> > Bengali: titakunga • Gujarati: માલતી malati • Hindi: अकड़ बेल akad
> bel,
> >> > हरणडोडी harandodi, नखछिकनी nak-chikni • Kannada: ದುಗ್ಧಿವೆ dugdhive
> •
> >> > Konkani: अमरी ambri • Malayalam: velipparuthi • Marathi: हरणदोडी
> harandodi,
> >> > नखसिकणी nakhasikani • Oriya: dudghika • Sanskrit: हेमजिवन्ती
> hemajivanti •
> >> > Tamil: கொடிப்பாலை koti-p-palai • Telugu: దూదిపాలతీగ dudipalatiga
>
> >> > Regards.
>
> >> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> > My specimens seem to be much more velvety, is it normal?
>
> >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >> > Associate Professor
> >> > SGTB Khalsa College
> >> > University of Delhi, Delhi
> >> > India
> >> >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
>
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Dinesh Valke
> >> > To: Gurcharan Singh
> >> > Cc: indiantreepix
> >> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:43 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17271] Dregea volubilis ID 310809GS1
>
> >> > ... indeed, Gurcharan ji.
> >> > Few photos attached; for more views:
> >> >http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Dregea%20volubilis&w=91314344%40N00
>
> >> > Regards.
>
> >> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> > This is what I think Dregea volubilis in flower, please confirm
>
> >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >> > Associate Professor
> >> > SGTB Khalsa College
> >> > University of Delhi, Delhi
> >> > India
> >> >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
>
>
>
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