Many thanks Neil ji for the links to *Triumfetta* species. Looking at the fruits in links of *T. pilosa*, I will have to re-look at what I know of *T. annua* Regards. Dinesh
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > Dr. Almeida in his 'Flora of Maharashtra', Vol 1 lists 5 species of > Triumfetta : > > 1.T.pilosa > 2.T.rhomboidea > 3.T.pentandra > 4.T.rotundifolia > 5.T.annua > > Am familiar with the first three. > > While T.pentandra is an annual undershrub, T.rhomboidea & T.pilosa are > perennial herbs. > > Besides other features, Dr. Almeida differntiates the 3 mainly on the > morphology of their fruit. > -T.pilosa has fruit with hispid bristles. > -T.rhomboidea has globose fruit with sharp bristles. > -T.pentandra has ovoid fruit with sharp bristles ciliate down one side. > > Have these 3 on my property at Shahapur. Have also encountered T.pentandra > in the Borivali National Park. > > My photographs of T.pilosa are available at this link : > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Triumfetta$20pilosa$20Neil$20Soares%7Csort:relevance/indiantreepix/5XK4ghFLejQ/Ci0B6ptAQ8gJ > > For T.rhomboidea please check these links : > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Triumfetta$20rhomboidea$20Neil$20Soares%7Csort:relevance/indiantreepix/6IyYooZqyk8/EwOgQvBgHtsJ > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Triumfetta$20pilosa$20Neil$20Soares%7Csort:relevance/indiantreepix/AVMmy7nh-1o/axKTGJsYcE8J > > and for T.pentandra : > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Triumfetta$20pentandra$20Neil$20Soares%7Csort:relevance/indiantreepix/fIBCAfpuoFY/IAUytFTy13EJ > > With regards, > Neil Soares. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > *To:* radha veach <[email protected]> > *Cc:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2013 12:27 PM > *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:168943] Re: Triumfetta pentandra at > Pachmarhi :: 18 SEP 13 :: DV > > ... the petals almost as long as sepals holds good for all the three (* > annua*, *pentandra*, *rhomboidea*) flowers that I am familiar with - in > the forests around Mumbai. I think some species of plants got missed out > during colonial times - whatever the small list, it would be interesting to > build the list. > Regards. > Dinesh > > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:42 AM, radha veach <[email protected]> wrote: > > thank you Dinesh, this is very helpful. > > I have to examine more of these plants. I find that T. rhomboidea is > quite variable. I will get back with you. > Have you see the description in Flora of Pakistan in which T. > pentandra is supposed to have petals as long as the sepals? > And the distribution is as follows:" Common in the northern parts of > the Punjab and N.W.F.P. According to Parker (l.c.) it occurs west of > Indus and is not common." > > Cooke does not mention T. pentandra at all, nor does Hooker, who says > that T. rhomboidea is a very variable plant. BSI's flora gives a very > sketchy description of both. > > Does it mean that T. pentandra has spread over large parts of India > relatively recently? > > If anyone can shed light on this I would be very interested. > > regards > Radha > > On 08/10/2013, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Radha ... flowers of *T. pentandra* are just about the size of its > > fruits - about 5 - 7 mm dia ... you may take a look in the photo above. > > While those of *T. rhomboidea* are large - about the twice the size of > the > > fruit - about 5 mm dia. > > > > Regards. > > Dinesh > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:40 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Dear Dinesh, > >> > >> can you explain how to distinguish between Triumfetta pentandra and T. > >> rhomboidea apart from counting the stamens? > >> > >> regards > >> Radha > >> > >> > >> On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 1:13:40 AM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> [image: ... dense forests of > >>> Pachmarhi]< > http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F10017192183%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzesKbB9_IVMlfvhwQEp8KkV0D7PdA > > > >>> Pachmarhi ... about 3600 feet ft asl > >>> *Date / Time*: 18 SEP 13 at 01:02 PM ... *Altitude*: about 3670 ft asl > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> *Triumfetta pentandra* A. Rich. ... (family: Malvaceae; also placed in > >>> Tiliaceae) > >>> Dear friends, there must be some name in Hindi for this plant. I could > >>> see this plant in many places of Pachmarhi. > >>> [image: Triumfetta > >>> pentandra]< > http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F9937514006%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzepKOANZr1ve-AJLt--oEB5f55ZIw > > > >>> ... a view from Priyadarshini Point (Forsyth Point) ... named for > >>> Captain > >>> James Forsyth of the British Army ... > >>> Wikipedia< > http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPachmarhi&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc2mqiAayLypjrJ-q3_C1bnyBJOEg > > > >>> . > >>> [image: ... view from Priyadarshini Point (Forsyth > >>> Point)]< > http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F9933672455%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcaUpRUXTz1phIkB7CULfJYOdR1rw > > > >>> > >>> > >>> Regards. > >>> Dinesh > >>> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "efloraofindia" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to [email protected]. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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