Agreed with Rawat ji We Can start with District wise list and then Statewise Checklist. We are near to compile Checklist of Haryana almost 80% done
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:25 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Well said, Rawat ji. > > > On 26 November 2013 21:09, D.S Rawat <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I believe that Plant List is a huge document available to every one and >> despite of many limitations it is very useful. Thanks to it, it is free and >> open to all. >> Can we compare our own efforts (all taxonomists of India) for just >> providing a checklist of flowering plants of India; mere 17,926 species but >> still even no checklist ! An if it exists, is it available to every one ?. >> Thanks to eFI which contains big proportion of this flora which is open >> to all. >> DSRawat Pantnagar >> >> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:37:25 PM UTC+5:30, Satish Phadke wrote: >> >>> Thanks Gurcharan ji >>> Your continued efforts will definitely show results some day. >>> A very positive response. Seems to be one step ahead. >>> >>> Dr Satish Phadke >>> >>> >>> On 25 November 2013 21:53, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Gurcharan ji for your efforts. Being a global database, and also >>>> 'done on a voluntary basis', TPL may have its own difficulties and >>>> limitations. Being a regular user of TPL, I am shocked to know that it is >>>> 'static' and not dynamic. >>>> >>>> I wonder if TPL can be open to us at eFI so that we can contribute by >>>> editing/updating its records wherever possible. Of course, the edits will >>>> be peer-reviewed by TPL before being finally published in the database. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Vijayasankar >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Vijayasankar Raman, Ph.D. >>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>> University of Mississippi >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear friends >>>>> Here is the response which should help members to decide how much we >>>>> expect from the Second Version of The Plant List. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: tpl_edit <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:34 PM >>>>> Subject: RE: New version of The Plant List >>>>> To: Bob Allkin <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> Cc: tpl_edit <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Dr Singh, thanks for your comments. I just wanted to add to the >>>>> response of my colleague regarding the limitations of the Plant list. We >>>>> have always tried to be open about these and in the next version we have >>>>> added the following paragraph to the ‘about’ pages of the next version. >>>>> Thanks again for all your comments. Best wishes, Alan >>>>> Limitations >>>>> >>>>> The Plant List is not perfect and represents work in progress. Data >>>>> comes from a variety of sources which are both monographic (global) and >>>>> regional in scope. These data sources vary in the extent to which >>>>> comprehensive synonymy is included, their stage of development (proximity >>>>> to publication) and the degree to which they have been exposed to peer >>>>> review. The Plant List indicates the confidence which can be given to >>>>> the status of a particular name record using a star >>>>> rating<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theplantlist.org%2F1.1%2Fabout%2F%23confidence&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF0Mt0ikBDKtP3zFynSQqTZRjPwxw>. >>>>> Around 20% of names are >>>>> unresolved<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theplantlist.org%2F1.1%2Fabout%2F%23unresolved&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGbLs0u8l_V95P4tID62DWlQGrJ2g>indicating >>>>> that, considered collectively, the data sources included >>>>> provided insufficient evidence as to whether the name should be treated as >>>>> accepted<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theplantlist.org%2F1.1%2Fabout%2F%23accepted&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFxAAhxfSGCq_HBHg_ZWQllWz9iOw>or >>>>> not. >>>>> >>>>> The Plant List is static. It is neither updated regularly from the >>>>> original data sources, nor edited directly. Data was extracted from source >>>>> databases in May 2012 and thus records included here may differ from their >>>>> current equivalent records in the source database from which they were >>>>> taken. Where you suspect errors in The Plant List, please first check >>>>> the source databases where corrections may have already been made. >>>>> Feedback >>>>> and corrections pertaining to records in The Plant List are passed on >>>>> to the source database for consideration. If accepted by the source >>>>> database they may be incorporated in a future version of The Plant >>>>> List. We do not edit or revise the content of The Plant List directly. >>>>> >>>>> There exist other reliable authoritative sources of taxonomic opinion >>>>> for some groups or some regions which we simply did not have the time or >>>>> resources to include in this version of The Plant List. Our ambition >>>>> is for future versions to be more inclusive and comprehensive. Although >>>>> The >>>>> Plant List may be the most comprehensive single information resource >>>>> covering all plants, it is imperfect and not all the taxonomic decisions >>>>> contained derive from a peer reviewed, curated, authoritative source. The >>>>> Plant List therefore should only be treated as advisory. Other, more >>>>> authoritative lists may exist for particular regions or taxa. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dr Alan Paton >>>>> >>>>> Assistant Keeper, Biodiversity Information and Economic Botany >>>>> >>>>> Herbarium, Library, Art and Archives >>>>> >>>>> Royal Botanic Gardens Kew >>>>> >>>>> TW9 3AB >>>>> >>>>> UK >>>>> >>>>> +44 (0)208 332 5295 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Bob Allkin >>>>> *Sent:* 23 November 2013 16:52 >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> *Cc:* tpl_edit >>>>> *Subject:* FW: New version of The Plant List >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Dr Singh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> your email was forwarded to me. >>>>> >>>>> We are pleased that you find TPL useful. We are painfully aware of its >>>>> limitations. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We know that the second version will be a great improvement on Version >>>>> 1. It is currently delayed for a week for want of some extra computer >>>>> memory. However we are equally certain that it will not resolve all of >>>>> your >>>>> correction and wishes. Some of the issues you raise are better handled >>>>> than >>>>> before but not perfectly. We are only able to present data as sent to us. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All corrections sent to us will have been forwarded to the >>>>> owner/editor of the database from which that record derives. Whether or >>>>> not those suggestions were included in the database I cannot tell. We >>>>> have >>>>> ambitions for making TPL very much better but the whole project is done on >>>>> a voluntary basis. If you have suggestions as to how we might find >>>>> resources to improve it then I would be delighted to hear from you >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> thanks for your interest and please do continue to send corrections we >>>>> will forward to the relevant institution. >>>>> >>>>> best regards >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dr Bob Allkin >>>>> >>>>> Information Products Manager, >>>>> >>>>> RBG Kew, TW9 4AB >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: Gurcharan Singh[SMTP:[email protected]] >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:10:11 AM >>>>> To: tpl_edit; [email protected] >>>>> Subject: New version of The Plant List >>>>> Auto forwarded by a Rule >>>>> >>>>> Dear sir >>>>> >>>>> With the release of The Plant List in 2010 taxonomists around the >>>>> world were greatly relieved with the hope of finding accepted names at one >>>>> place. Unfortunately there were more conflicts than solutions. I have >>>>> already sent more than 1000 corrections in seven separate mails. Hope >>>>> these >>>>> are others communicated by rest of the taxonomic community are taken care >>>>> of in compiling the second list which as we understand would be online >>>>> shortly. >>>>> >>>>> Following need urgent attention in the second list >>>>> >>>>> 1. Long list of unresolved names. >>>>> >>>>> 2. Listing of several subspecies and varieties (which is always >>>>> welcome) but not mentioning the autonym. >>>>> >>>>> 2. Mention of autonyms (Brassica juncea subsp. juncea) but no other >>>>> subspecies or variety is listed as accepted name. An autonym is created >>>>> only when some other subspecies or variety is recognised. When we don't >>>>> recognise any other subspecies, B. juncea subsp. juncea is redundant. >>>>> >>>>> 3. several cases of name combinations (there are thousands of examples >>>>> in the First List) where no synonym is listed, not even the basionym. >>>>> >>>>> 4. Numerous examples in which author name is given after the autonym >>>>> epithet, It is well known fact that autonyms are automatically created and >>>>> won't bear author name. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> >>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gurcharanfamily.com%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHGOXhhkU4mtzSd3FYjasyamW99YA> >>>>> >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fpeople.du.ac.in%2F~singhg45%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFZHbZTfAXuOMhPpneqVpiVmswTiw> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>> >>> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > alphabetically & place-wise): > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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