Thanks, Ron ji. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: 16 January 2015 at 16:08 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: [efloraofindia:212087] Dioscorea for identification :: 050115 :: MK006 To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
Muhua ji, Thank you for your reply as the information describing the characteristics of Ipomoea alba and Ipomoea muricata corresponds with my own. I have grown and examined both species and have noted some additional personal observations. My assessment of Ipomoea muricata is based upon what *is* present in the photos supplied mostly gleaned from the initial unnumbered photo showing the tubercles on the stem in addition to photos # 5 & #6 and I would elaborate & clarify as follows : a) tubercles - much more common and widespread on Ipomoea muricata as seen in the initial photo. b) secondary bracts - usually only present in early stages of calyx development therefore indicating early flower-buds and not fruit ; more likely to be persistent on I.muricata as they serve to protect the generally smaller upper calyx; the calices are pre-corolla blooming and may exhibit changes after further development. c) size of awn arista in relation to outer sepals and in this case the awn arista is about the same size as the outer sepals of about 5mm as can be seen in photo # 5 & photo #6. d) size of inner sepals - on I.alba can be 2 -3 x size of outer sepals , although the inner sepals in these photos are not longer than the outer sepals sepals , but are approx.equal to outer sepals on Ipomoea turbinata. So , it could be either of the 2 very closely related species , although I opted for what is currently visible in the photos supplied. Thanks to all for their input.. regards, Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.M. Garg" Date: Friday, January 16, 2015 4:37 am Subject: Fwd: Fwd: [efloraofindia:212087] Dioscorea for identification :: 050115 :: MK006 To: efloraofindia Cc: Muthu Karthick , Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan > Thanks, Mahua ji. > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mahua Pal > Date: 16 January 2015 at 14:24 > Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:212087] Dioscorea for > identification :: > 050115 :: MK006 > To: "J.M. Garg" > > > Dear Mr. Ron, > > > In *Ipomoea alba* flowers white, with greenish midpetaline > bands; tube > cylindrical, 8-15 cm long; limb rotate, 8-12 cm broad; > sepals ovate to elliptic, subcoriaceous, glabrous, unequal; > outer 2 or 3 > shorter, 1-1.3 cm long and with a long, thick, recurved or > patent awn, > below the top; awns 5-9 mm long; the inner ones longer, 1.1-1.5 > cm long, > mucronulate. > bracts small, caducous. > > In *I. muricata* flowers lavender to purplish, tube narrow and > cylindric, 3-6 cm long; limb *c.* 5 cm across. > > Sepals subequal, ovate to elliptic lanceolate; the 2 outer ones > 6-7 mm > long, attenuated into a fleshy caudate awn 4-6 mm long; the > inner 7-8 mm > long, obtuse or slightly emarginate, the awn somewhat shorter; > > bracts *c.* 4 mm long, leafy, oblong or obovate-oblong, acute, > caducous. > All the characters are not shown in the photos. > > Dr. Mahua > Pal, CNH, BSI, Howrah. > > > > > > > > > > From: "J.M. Garg" > Sent: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 20:40:00 > To: efloraofindia > Cc: Muthu Karthick > Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:212087] Dioscorea for > identification :: 050115 > :: MK006 > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: > Date: 15 January 2015 at 18:50 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:212087] Dioscorea for identification > :: 050115 > :: MK006 > To: "J.M. Garg" > > > Dear Mahua Pal ji., > > How are you differentiating Ipomoea alba from Ipomoea > muricata based on > what is present in the photos ? > > Please elaborate and enlighten. > > regards, > > Ron > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J.M. Garg" > Date: Thursday, January 15, 2015 4:31 am > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:212087] Dioscorea for identification > :: 050115 > :: MK006 > To: efloraofindia > Cc: Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan , Muthu Karthick > > > A reply: > > "It is *Ipomoea alba* L. (moon flower, evening glory), synonym > > *Ipomoeabona-nox* L. " from Mahua Pal ji. > > > > > > On 14 January 2015 at 17:49, J.M. 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