Dr.Singh-- I concur; 25383 is also a Montanoa species, though I can't claim the species ID with certainty. I'm not an expert in this genus, though I have grown or propagated three species over the years. M. hibiscifolia is not one of them though, and details should be compared to photos and technical descriptions before giving a certain specific ID. From what I've read of its noxious habit, as well as its tolerance of warmer areas (Hawaii), it seems likely.
M. grandiflora is a worthwhile garden plant, though rangy, for large spots. It is a harbinger plant that helps "turn the corner" of shortening days; bright, fragrant flowers in the dead of winter can cheer like few others can. In my experience in CA and FL it has never volunteered, but grows very easily from softwood cuttings. And sorry I missed 25383, amongst others. Lately I've had a busy schedule, so emails get saved and often not reviewed. I've been trying to get more involved again as I can in last week or so. To be honest, I was rather surprised to see any larger Montanoa species so far away from Mexico; they are not particularly common here in CA or FL. And I do get concerned when potential escape-threats gain footholds in far-flung places. If I can help anyone prevent a threatening invader species with just a little information, maybe some native species can hold on for a little longer. I see so many species native to your country, some showy and some mundane, that I've seen through this site for the first time. I'd hate to hear that some of them become overrun with nonnatives that are unknown to observant people there until it is too late. Florida's Everglades, among other areas in the US, are so thoroughly altered by invasives that I never saw many of the native species. Future generations will have even less. Regards-- Ken. ________________________________ From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> To: Kenneth Greby <[email protected]> Cc: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>; efloraofindia <[email protected]>; Nayan Singh <[email protected]>; Gurcharan Singh-sify <[email protected]>; satish pardeshi <[email protected]>; Shrikant Ingalhalikar <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 4:01:30 AM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:27496] Fwd: [indiantreepix:24268] Plant for Kodaicanal 281109 – NSD 106 Dear Kenneth You seemed to have solved identification of two plants. To me the Plant from Nandi Hills, Karnataka, forwarded by Garg ji (25383 on 9-2-10) also appears to be the same. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Kenneth Greby <[email protected]> wrote: RE: Montanoa: > > I know that M. grandiflora flowers as the days just begin to lengthen in > early winter in CA and FL, USA. Its flowers are vanilla scented. > > I'm not certain if M. hibiscifolia flowering is photoperiodic or not, nor do > I know if it is similarly-scented. Here are many more pics of it at this > link: > >> http://www.hear.org/starr/plants/images/species/?q=montanoa+hibiscifolia > > > Regards-- > Ken. > > ________________________________ From: Kenneth Greby <[email protected]> >To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>; efloraofindia ><[email protected]> > >Cc: Nayan Singh <[email protected]>; Gurcharan Singh-sify ><[email protected]>; satish pardeshi <[email protected]>; Shrikant >Ingalhalikar <[email protected]> >Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 10:15:51 PM >Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:27494] Fwd: [indiantreepix:24268] Plant for >Kodaicanal 281109 – NSD 106 > > > > This is likely Montanoahibiscifolia or possibly M. grandiflora. They are both > "Tree Daises", native from Mexico through Central America, often in cloud > forests at high elevations. > >> The latter is occasionally used as an ornamental in coastal California >and Florida, USA. > > The former is very similar, but infrequently planted >due to its weedy tendencies; it has escaped in Hawaii and is considered >noxious there.. It should probably be monitored and >possibly eradicated especially near flowing water sources; many fertile >seeds can be generated in one year. > > >M. grandiflora: >http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=15316 > >M. hibiscifolia: >http://www.hear.org/species/montanoa_hibiscifolia/ > >http://www.eol.org/pages/503465#image-1991590 > >Regards-- >Ken Greby. > > > > ________________________________ From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >To: > efloraofindia <[email protected]> >Cc: Nayan Singh <[email protected]>; Gurcharan Singh-sify ><[email protected]>; satish pardeshi <[email protected]>; Shrikant >Ingalhalikar <[email protected]> >Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 9:22:32 PM >Subject: [efloraofindia:27491] Fwd: [indiantreepix:24268] Plant for Kodaicanal >281109 – NSD 106 > > >Forwarding again for Id assistancepl. > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: Nayan Singh <[email protected]> >> >Date: 28 November 2009 22:38 >Subject: [indiantreepix:24268] Plant for Kodaicanal 281109 – NSD 106 >To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> >>Cc: [email protected] > > > >Friends >Photographed in Kodaicanal on 12-1-07 >Please id this Asteraceae plant >Thanks in advance >Nayan >..............................N.S.Dungriyal IFS >Chief Conservator of Forests >and Field Director >Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad >> >M.P. >09424792100 >________________________________ >The INTERNET now has a personality. 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