Phaseolus vulgaris is not one plant type its a group of large numbers of beans haricot beans... kidney beans, french beans, navy beans white beans , etc have about 14,000 cultivars ... <https://hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Phaseolus_vulgaris.html>with flowers in lax, axillary few-flowered (12) racemes, zygomorphic, variegated, white, pink, or purplish, ca 1 cm long (from the same James DUke Book) when one cooks them they all feel and taste different. and their nutrition values are different and their lectin contents and their toxicites are different.
Yet botanically all are classified as Phaseolus vulgaris L. and this shows a few of the varieties of Phaseolus vulgaris seeds <http://www.prota4u.org/plantphotos/Phaseolus%20vulgaris%20(French%20bean)%205.jpg> ... SO what Kew is showing is not academically correct to represent the 14,000+ cv s flowers which sho w differences it may be just as an example Nidhan's original picture shows the so called french bean of vegetable garden variety with creamy flowers if it were Kulath Kalai or horse gram as has been suggested those beans look different and are shorter and much flatter and wider than shown in Gurcharnji's pictures and Nidhan's pictures that's just an opinion of a gardener I dont want fights Its upto qualified Botanists to decide, Nidhan is one himself Nidhan do you have follow up on your case did you allow the plant to maturity and look at the beans as they matured? and seeds?? were they one of the many // regular beans or Kulathi usha di On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:49 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "surajit koley" <[email protected]> > Date: 3 Nov 2015 22:14 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:234206] Fabaceae (Faboideae) Fortnight :: > Phaseolus vulgaris for validation :: Chakrata :: NS OCT 98/98 > To: "Nidhan Singh" <[email protected]> > Cc: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> > > well, Sir, here is more authentic image of *Phaseolus vulgaris* - > http://www.kew.org/science-conservation/plants-fungi/phaseolus-vulgaris-common-bean > > Thank you > Regards > > > On 3 November 2015 at 20:02, Nidhan Singh <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thanks a lot Surajit Ji for conclusive links and explanations leading to >> correction in id.. >> >> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 9:18 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Nidhan Sir, >>> >>> First i will tell you why it is not *Phaseolus vulgaris* L. In >>> *Phaseolus* corolla morphology is different than *Vigna* or *Dolichos* like >>> regular legume species. please check foc illustration (specially no.2 and >>> 5) -http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=116327&flora_id=2. >>> Corolla in *Phaseolus* mostly features- >>> >>> 1. standard suborbicular, quite different to other legume genera >>> 2. wings equalling or exceeding standard >>> 3. keel beaked, spiral >>> 4. in *P. v.* calyx teeth is much smaller >>> 5. in *P. v.* flower is subtended by persistent ovate bracteoles >>> >>> The correct species images can be seen at >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/LvvFsri1xzQ/iZVItwPp8VYJ >>> >>> My guess is that you identified your species based on uploads like - >>> >>> - >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/sF4PXYr2UsU/FYltXojWCwAJ >>> >>> Now, I will try to identify your species, featured by regular legume >>> flower, long calyx teeth- >>> >>> 1. please check http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/265239/ (efi >>> also features this species) >>> 2. for varieties check >>> >>> http://www.tropicalforages.info/key/Forages/Media/Html/Macrotyloma_uniflorum.htm >>> 3. though your 2nd pic seems to show cylindrical pod but immature >>> pods are flattened (compressed) as can be seen in 5th pic of >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/sF4PXYr2UsU/FYltXojWCwAJ >>> 4. hint of flattened pod can also be seen in your 1st pic >>> >>> Your species is *Macrotyloma uniflorum* ILam.) Verdc. >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 30 October 2015 at 00:04, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't think it is *Phaseolus vulgaris* L. It's possibly a *Vigna* >>>> species. >>>> >>>> On 29 October 2015 at 15:56, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Nidhan ji. >>>>> I think you are right. Pl. see Phaseolus vulgaris >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/phaseolus/phaseolus-vulgaris> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: Nidhan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: 22 October 2015 at 07:49 >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:234206] Fabaceae (Faboideae) Fortnight :: >>>>> Phaseolus vulgaris for validation :: Chakrata :: NS OCT 98/98 >>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> >>>>> Please validate or correct the id of this cultivated legume, recorded >>>>> from Chakrata area...!! >>>>> Is this *Phaseolus vulgaris*? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Dr. Nidhan Singh >>>>> Assistant Professor >>>>> Department of Botany >>>>> I.B. 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