Thanks M.Swamyji for the feedback.I will certainly revisit the specimen and try to determine what exactly it is.
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 6:53 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "M Swamy" <[email protected]> > Date: 16 Nov 2015 18:06 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:235974] TSPNOV2015-19:images of Crescentia > cujete (Bignoniaceae) > To: "Ushadi Micromini" <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" < > [email protected]> > Cc: > > Your remarks 'How does one compare the fruit and flower sizes in one tree > specimen' is most appropriate. I concur with your views. I think one > need to check all the taxonomic characters of the species using the flora > and key for the genus. This can be done only by the person who has posted > the picture and has access to the specimen. You have also taken trouble > to make appropriate references on the taxa. Very helpful. > > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> That's interesting, Dr. Swamy >> I share your views and appreciate the reference link >> >> but i also wonder.... >> how does one compare the fruit and flower sizes in one tree specimen ? >> >> would we need a set of samples? like the toptropical nursery owners do, >> they have lots of trees growing in their nursery ... >> >> this is always a conundrum when we see one tree. >> >> >> >> Also the mayan civilization, that used these trees for domestic use.. >> have both wild and domesticated populations and in that there is marked >> difference in genetic variation with end result in the habit, ;leaves and >> fruits being of different sizes and characteristics etc >> >> 1: >> >> http://www.researchgate.net/publication/225691620_Diversity_of_the_calabash_ >> tree_%28Crescentia_cujete_L.%29_in_Colombia >> >> two full text papers from PUBMED from NIH USA >> >> 2: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3359923/ >> 3: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3842825/ >> >> so how do we know if we are seeing offspring of a wild vareity or >> offspring of the domesticated variety >> >> maybe Gurcharanji can give us an opinion? please >> Tapasda? >> >> thanks >> >> usha di >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 5:39 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: M Swamy <[email protected]> >>> Date: 15 November 2015 at 16:57 >>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:235534] TSPNOV2015-19:images of Crescentia >>> cujete (Bignoniaceae) >>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> In view of the remarks of Srikant ji you may please check for C.alata >>> also. >>> Crescentia alata is similar to Crescentia cujete >>> <http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/crescentia_cujete.htm> except that >>> both fruits and flowers are smaller as per toptropicals.com : >>> http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Crescentia_alata.htm >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 1:00 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> This should be C alata looking at leaves and flowers. Please check. >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Shrikant >>>> >>>> efi page on Crescentia alata >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/b/bignoniaceae/crescentia/crescentia-alata> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: tsp kumar <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 7 November 2015 at 10:17 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:235534] TSPNOV2015-19:images of Crescentia >>>> cujete (Bignoniaceae) >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear friends, >>>> >>>> It is my pleasure to share few images of *Crescentia cujete * >>>> (Bignoniaceae) >>>> >>>> Habit: Medium sized tree >>>> >>>> Habitat: Cultivated >>>> . >>>> Sighting: Devarayanadurga,Tumkur,Karnataka. >>>> >>>> Date: 07-07-2014,10-11-2014,14-06-2015 and 5-10-2015 >>>> >>>> Thanks and regards >>>> tspkumar >>>> Deputy Conservator of Forests >>>> Working Plan >>>> Chikmagalur >>>> Ph:988057158 >>>> >>>> *"When the last tree has been cut down,the last fish caught,the last >>>> river poisoned,only then we will realise that one cannot eat money"-Osage >>>> saying* >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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