Tanay now you are trying to confuse me. Let me put this way. hookeranum and
hookerianum are orothographic variants, so let us say same, although
hookerianum should be considered as grammatical correct and used preferably.
For a moment forget about these spelling differences. Now please note that
Hypericum leschenaultii Choisy (described in 1824) is an Indonesian species
with which Dyer in FBI (1874) also identified some Indian specimens and he
also provided a new combination H. hookeranum var. leschenaultii (Choisy)
Dyer. As it turns out now Indian specimens are different from Indonesian
plant. For this Indian plant Wall had suggested name H. choisianum which
Robson validated in 1974 in Flora Pakistan (hence Wall. ex Robson). This
also means that H. hookeranum var. leschenaultii sensu Dyer (and not H.
hookerianum (or hookeranum) Wt. & Arnott. (please note that if there are
more than one varieties within this species, then this type hookerianum
would be correctly called H. hookerianum Wt. & Arnott. var. hookerianum
(autonym so no author) , not even H. leschenaultii Choisy) is the synonym of
H. choisianum Wall. ex Robson (or more correctly choisyanum as per Flora
China- as Choisy is correct spelling).
Similarly, please note that H. oblongifolium Choisy is a distinct
species, which Wallich gave identification for some Indian plants now
correctly identified as H. choisianum. So again H. oblongifolium sensu Wall.
and not H. oblongifolium Choisy is synonym of H. choisianum.
Differentiating features of species are given by Robson in Fl.
Pakistan
I hope I have made things clear.
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On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 12:14 AM, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Gurcharan ji,
> How did you came know that I know the tomato story about the orthographic
> change from *Lycopersicum lycopersicum* (Karsten 1882) to *Lycopersicon
> lycopersicum* (Nicolson 1974). I am amazed by your speculative ideas !!
> If *H hookerianum* and *H hookeranum* are only orthographic error then I
> will like say that in the link you have sent me of eflora of Pakistan it's
> written there *Hypericum hookeranum var. leschenaultii sensu Dyer* and
> *Hypericum
> oblongifolium sensu Wall* are synonyms of *Hypericum choisianum*
> *Wall.*Please see
> from the same link you provided me for handy measures I have added it below.
> How can it be possible Sir the matter is getting hazy for me. Hope you will
> kindly help me and provide me guidabce to understand the matter.
>
> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200014200
>
>
> Regards
> Tanay
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Tanay
>> They are orthographic variants, as are H. choisianum (Fl. Pakistan) and H.
>> choisyanum (Fl. China). I hope you remember nomenclature story of Tomato.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:02 PM, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Gurcharan Ji,
>>> I understood your explanation . Is H hookerianum and H hookeranum are
>>> different plants or a typing error?
>>> Regards
>>> Tanay
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Gurcharan Singh
>>> <singh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Tanay
>>>> Hypericum hookerianum wight & Arnott, 1834 can't be synonym of H.
>>>> choisianum, for the simple fact that when Robson validated H. choisianum in
>>>> 1973 (Flora Pakistan), he gave differentiating features and latin diagnosis
>>>> separating it from H. hookerianum. These two as distinct species are both
>>>> described in Flora of China, authored by Robson himself, H. hookerianum
>>>> occurs in Bangladesh, Bhutan, Nepal, NE India and more importantly South
>>>> India, and H. choisianum occurring in Bengal, Sikkim, Nepal, Myanmar, Nepal
>>>> and Pakistan. So on that count also Kodaikanal Plant should be. H.
>>>> hookerianum.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>> Retired Associate Professor
>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:14 PM, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Gurcharan ji,
>>>>> From the eflora of Pakistan it seems that *Hypericum hookeranum *and*
>>>>> Hypericum
>>>>> oblongifolium* is synonym of *Hypericum choisianum.* I hope I am right
>>>>> hence all the name indicate a single plant. It has also written that the
>>>>> older stems are terate and are devoid of 4-lines. I think the photo shows
>>>>> an
>>>>> old stem of the plant because of the leaves size, internode size, nodal
>>>>> size and also because it's bearing flower (reproductive organ). Please
>>>>> confirm about your responses to me kindly.
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Tanay
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Gurcharan Singh
>>>>> <singh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Tanay
>>>>>> You seem to have identified the plant. To make it confirmed I request
>>>>>> you to go through the note in eflora of Pakistan:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200014200
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200014200>and
>>>>>> this photograph on the web
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nmessences.com/sets_images/se_hypericum_choisianum_post_trauma1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nmessences.com/nga/trauma_set.html&usg=__46Ro-j36MuJzwtk1anQPUpXsPdQ=&h=80&w=100&sz=14&hl=en&start=1&sig2=IsybrxQnBfbA6zjGIS5PtA&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=4exBP9dgy6a9FM:&tbnh=66&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHypericum%2Bchoisianum%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=toqbS8LfGYnDrAfOraRH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nmessences.com/sets_images/se_hypericum_choisianum_post_trauma1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nmessences.com/nga/trauma_set.html&usg=__46Ro-j36MuJzwtk1anQPUpXsPdQ=&h=80&w=100&sz=14&hl=en&start=1&sig2=IsybrxQnBfbA6zjGIS5PtA&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=4exBP9dgy6a9FM:&tbnh=66&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHypericum%2Bchoisianum%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=toqbS8LfGYnDrAfOraRH>I
>>>>>> feel first the sepals in our plant are rounded at apex and broader, and
>>>>>> stem
>>>>>> seems to be without 4-lines. Could it be H. hookerianum?. I think it is
>>>>>> worth researching.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor
>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:24 PM, tanay bose
>>>>>> <tanaybos...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> I hope the plant in the attached photo is *Hypericum choisianum*.
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Tanay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:55 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “*A chance for Hypericum...?”* from Parjanya ji.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>> From: Aarti S. Khale <aarti.kh...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Date: 9 January 2010 17:29
>>>>>>>> Subject: [indiantreepix:26159] For ID:090110AK1
>>>>>>>> To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This picture was taken at Bryant's Park, Kodaokanal on the 24th of
>>>>>>>> October,08.
>>>>>>>> Is it Golden St John's Wort?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you could kindly confirm identification.
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Aarti Khale
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have been sent 1 picture.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At Bryant's Park,Kodai-DSCN6809 24-Oct-08 1-02-44 PM.JPG
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google.
>>>>>>>> Try it out here: http://picasa.google.com/
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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