Thanks dear Chadwell ji. I understand the ID is probable, the best candidate based on the aspects afforded by the pictures. Regards. Dinesh
On Nov 11, 2016 10:37 AM, "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Dinesh > > The narrow foliage of the plant you photographed does not match the more > typical leaves of Primula macrophylla (as I am calling it) [ > Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla] but I have observed similar on > specimens found at some 3000m on the Rohtang Pass > in HP. > > Clearly, all taxa within the PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA COMPLEX vary a good deal > and in time may be subdivided/separated further. > > At times one just has to say, "that is the best/most I can say at present". > > The more close-ups we get of these Primulas the better we can understand > them. Please be sure to take close-ups of the leaves next > time including undersides. This would help. > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > *To:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > *Cc:* C CHADWELL <[email protected]>; efloraofindia < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, 10 November 2016, 6:43 > *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:256298] Re: VoF Week :: DV :: 03 AUG 12 - > 1231 :: faded blue flowered herb along Hemakund - Ghangaria trail > > Thank you very much Chadwell ji for validating the ID, and for related > information. > Regards. > Dinesh > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:22 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, Chadwell ji > > On 10 Nov 2016 6:04 am, "chrischadwell261@btinternet. com > <[email protected]>" <chrischadwell261@btinternet. com > <[email protected]>> wrote: > > I consider this has been correctly identified but apply a slightly > different name drawing attention to the unpublished research of Professor > Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso > Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden). The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato - > meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist > growers for more than a century. > > Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species *Primula meeboldii* > (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of > this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century). It has pinkish flowers > and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions. Hopefully the full details > will be published in the not-too-distant future. > > Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, > along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula > moorcroftiana as separate species. > > *The image taken probably fits with what I currently consider to be > Primula macrophylla** (syn. Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla). I > have observed both P.macrophylla and P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang. > P.moorcrotiana is mostly found from 4000-4500m (I have not been higher but > it may well grow at higher altitudes) whereas P.macrophylla is mostly found > between 3000-3600m. > > I have found Primula macrophylla sensu stricto to vary a lot - so may well > be subdivided at some point but the plant photographed in the VOF is not > Primula moorcroftiana nor P.meeboldii nor matches the unknown(s) in Kashmir. > > > On Friday, August 31, 2012 at 8:25:01 PM UTC+1, Dinesh Valke wrote: > > [image: Brahmakamal near Hemakund] > <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7851637218%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf79MRP3Fs2WySl9Lvl-tWbzBNsuw> > 3 AUG 12 > Hemakund - Ghangaria trail ... about 13500 ft > ------------------------------ > Dear friends, ID please. > *Habitat*: mountain slope > *Habit*: small herb, about 50 - 60 cm high; flower about 8 - 10 mm across (not > sure) > > > [image: P1020431] > <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7851469180%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfPj7HEVvXjz2RS1WIEZoIftEYZ8g> > > [image: P1020428] > <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7851474404%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfoSLub0z5kGL_2is0f_wD5QmsuTw> > [image: P1020426] > <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7851482734%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdOTpj-wLHbh05ZLIjofF0ODa-aMg> > Regards. > Dinesh > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to indiantreepix+unsubscribe@goog legroups.com > <[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] . > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/indiantreepix > <https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/op tout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/indiantreepix/SJKq5RgoSWw/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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