Thanks, Chadwell ji On 19 Nov 2016 10:05 pm, "[email protected]" < [email protected]> wrote:
> *There seems to be different interpretations of Geranium mascatense and > G.ocellatum. The flower here shows gaps between the petals (see below)* > > 'The Plant List' gives G.ocellatum as a synonym of the former. Whereas > Nasir in 'Flora of Pakistan' separates the two. Stewart does not list > G.mascatense > at all but has *G.ocellatum* var. *himalaicum* as common from 300-1800m. > Nasir, on the other hand, says that G.mascatense is only sparingly recorded > from Pakistan and then only in Baluchistan. > > G.mascatense is recorded from Africa and the Gulf - so Baluchistan fits OK > with this. Collet had G.ocellatum in hill districts of N.India from same > altitudes as Stewart. IF they constitute separate species, I find it > somewhat surprising to have G.mascatense in the Himalayan foothills. > > I do not know on whose authority G.ocellatum has been sunk into > G.mascatense. According to Nasir the species are very close but > G.mascatense has puberulous mericarps - translating that into English: in > Geranium the dry fruits consists of 5 'mericarps' each with a seed, which > may be explosively dispersed though sometimes remains inside) the > 'puberulous' part means downy with very short soft hairs. *So clearly, > unless one can observe the fruits of a geranium this characteristic cannot > be ascertained. No doubt Nasir knew of other differences.* > > > *Taking a quick look at the images for G.mascastense available on the > internet, most show marked gaps between the petals (as do the images taken > in Muscat in the posting above this) compared with images of specimens from > the foothills of the NW Himalaya which may constitute sufficient to justify > them as separate taxa but without careful study of the whole plants cannot > speculate if that is sufficient (or a consistent difference) to justify > separation as varieties, subspecies or at the species level but the > geographic/altitudinal/climatic differences may be of significance.* > > *Cannot comment further at this stage.* > > On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 at 4:02:38 PM UTC, Satish Phadke wrote: > >> *Geranium ocellatum* >> Very beautiful herb observed on walls of Purandar fort in rainy season. >> Dr Satish Phadke >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
