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From: Satish Phadke <[email protected]>
Date: 30 March 2010 13:44
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:30767] Lagerstroemia parviflora
To: Neil Soares <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]


I think .............In my picture DSCN 0446a The calyx lobes definitely
look like appressed to the fruit. Would you like to have a second look? What
do you say?I am sure all the pictures from the set belong to the same tree,
snapped at diff. times
Satish


On 30 March 2010 13:33, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote:

>    Hi Dr.Satish,
>   Please check the archives of this group for the earlier discussion [and
> my photographs] on this.
>
>   Reproducing the chararcteristics featured in the key in Dr.Almeida's
> book:
> 1.Leaves alternate;shrub  -   L.indica
> 1.Leaves opposite, decussate      - 2
>
>      2.Flowers purple     - L.speciosa
>      2.Flowers pink        - L.thorelli
>      2.Flowers white      -     3
>
> 3.Leaves fulvous tomentose beneath    -  L.hirta
> 3.Leaves glabrous        -    4
>
>      4.Calyx-tube with 6 ribs   -    L.floribunda
>      4.Calyx-tube not ribbed    -      5
>
> 5.Calyx lobes appressed to the fruit      - L.parviflora
> 5.Calyx lobes spreading or reflexed       - L.lanceolata
>
>                                         With regards,
>                                           Neil Soares.
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 3/30/10, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Satish Phadke <[email protected]>
>
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:30767] Lagerstroemia parviflora
> To: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 12:23 PM
>
> Dear Neil ji
> The key for Lagerstroemia L.  given in BSI Flora Mah. says
> 1.Calyx ridges as many as sepals or reduced to warts or auricles:
>      2.    Leaves distinctly petiolate; fruiting calyx tube 0.2 cm deep
> ...    *L.microcarpa*
>      2.    Leaves sessile or subsessile; fruiting calyx tube 0.6-0.9 cm
> deep   ...  * L.parviflora*
> (1. Calyx ridge twice the number of sepals     ...    *L.reginae*)
> What is the opinion from Dr. Almeida? whether this key is not correct for
> naming or something else. I am confused similar to Dinesh ji earlier
> The pictures posted by you earlier for *L.microcarpa* clearly show
> petiolate leaves while my pictures show sessile leaves.
> Are other factors like simple/compound panicle of inflorescence and the
> colour of the bark more important as in earlier discussion?
> Does tip of the leaf play any role in differentiating?
> Hoping to learn something.
> Dr Phadke Satish
>
> On 30 March 2010 11:44, Satish Phadke 
> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
>> Dear Neil ji
>> Will you please let me know the description of this plant as given in
>> Almeida's flora and how it differs from other species? Or you can send me a
>> link where it is given.
>> Thanks
>> Dr Phadke
>>
>>
>> On 25 March 2010 22:12, Neil Soares 
>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>   Hi,
>>>  This is Lagerstroemia lanceolata [L.microcarpa] locally called Bhondara
>>> / Seena. Have written about this earlier on this site - according to Dr.
>>> Almeida, Cooke had got it wrong in his 'Flora of Bombay' and most books have
>>> been perpetuating this fallacy.
>>>                         With regards,
>>>                           Neil Soares.
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 3/25/10, tanay bose 
>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: tanay bose 
>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>il
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:30767] Lagerstroemia parviflora
>>> To: "Satish Phadke" 
>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>> >
>>> Cc: "indiantreepix Indian" 
>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>> >
>>> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 7:18 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Satish Ji,
>>> I agree with you this plant is
>>>
>>> *Lagerstroemia parviflora* Roxb., ; Pl. Corom. 1: 47, t. 66 (1795).
>>> Regards
>>> Tanay
>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Satish Phadke 
>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Lagerstroemia parviflora* (Bondara)
>>>> Family : Lythraceae Please validate.
>>>> This tree about 15 feet in height was observed flowering on 24Mar 2009.
>>>> Pune Vetal Tekdi Near Mhatoba temple.
>>>> Points in favor....
>>>> Leaves 9*3.5 cm or so glabrous sessile. Flowers white in terminal and
>>>> axillary panicled cyme.
>>>> Capsule 2.5 cm by 2 cm. Fruiting calyx tube 1cm deep. Some photos are of
>>>> the same tree taken last year in fruiting phase.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Dr Phadke Satish
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