Thanks for the link to the current listing of Cirsium species recorded from
Nepal but ALL these werewithin 'An Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of
Nepal' Vol 3 (1982) which covered this genus.
Kitamura & Gould who wrote the account of Asteraceae (then Compositae) stated
for C.falconeri inNepal that the taxon as recognised is a very variable species
- they outlined the differences between'Kashmir' plants and 'Eastern Himalaya'
ones. They concluded that the amount of variation suggeststhat several species
may be involved and further study is required.
I am in agreement with this. It does not appear that this study has taken place
in the intervening period.
I should be in a position to comment further about the images posted under the
name C.falconeri on eFIbut a MAJOR study is required overall - there are limits
to what I can do.
For the time-being, my INITIAL impressions were that SOME of the images posted
not only did not matchthe Kashmir form of C.falconeri but were not the 'Eastern
Himalayan Form' either (whatever taxa are decidedupon when a thorough revision
has taken place) and may well belong either to other Cirsium species orrelated
genera.
I cannot meaningful do any MORE with the images you posted at this stage.
Best Wishes,
Chris Chadwell
81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK
www.shpa.org.uk
From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
Cc: C CHADWELL <[email protected]>; efloraofindia
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2017, 10:16
Subject: [efloraofindia:261049] Re: Cirsium falconeri (Hook.f.) Petr.
(provisionally accepted name) ??
Enclosing link if it could help to
ID.http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:52 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji.
On 10 Jan 2017 4:31 p.m., "chrischadwell261@btinternet. com"
<chrischadwell261@btinternet. com> wrote:
See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri. The plant you photographed is
definitely not the same as C.falconerifound in Kashmir.
I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as
C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums.
Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult.
On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 4:58:07 PM UTC, Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote:
Dear Members,
Location: Kalinchowk, Dolakha, NepalAltitude: 9000 ft.Date: 26 July 2014
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju
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