Dear all,
Could any of you kindly send me the Kannada name for this Phoenix
loureirii Kunth var. humilis (Becc.) S.C. Barrow species?
Thank you.

On Mar 14, 6:43 am, Dr Santhosh Kumar <drsanthosh1...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear Sir,
>
> The nomenclature of Phoenix sylvestris is a difficult nut for me over 2
> years. This species was originally proposed by Linneanus as Elate sylvestris
> and later Roxburgh transferred this to Phoenix viz. P. sylvestris. The type
> was based on Rheede's Kattu eethanl in his Hortus Malabaricus. But Roxburgh
> described another plant instead in his Flora Indica. This made the problem
> so complecated. Now we are going to raise an epitype for the species and I
> do hope we can solve the mystery shortly. Until then we can silent about
> this issue.
>
> Thanks and regards
>
> Santhosh
>
> On 13 March 2010 18:51, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Vijayadas ji and Muthu ji
> > According to Eflora of Pakistan P. humilis Royle is synonym of *Phoenix* *
> > loureirii* 
> > Kunth<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=250077154> 
> > which
> > should be the correct name
>
> > It is differentiated from other common wild species P. sylvestris as
> > follows
>
> > Phoenix loureirii.....Plants less than 4 m tall, 20-30 cm in diam., leaves
> > 20-55 cm long, fruit 1-2 cm long
>
> > Phoenix sylvestris...Plants 8-15 m tall, 35-50 cm in diam., 1-4 m long,
> >  fruit 2.5 cm long
>
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>
> > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Vijayadas D <vijayad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>  I think this is wild sps. commonly seen in hills
>
> >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:09 PM, shrikant ingalhalikar <
> >> le...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Stems with leaf bases, peduncle not flattened, elongate, fruits black.
> >>> These features lead to P. lourierii Kunth. Rgds, Shrikant
>
> >>> On Mar 12, 3:29 pm, Muthu Karthick <nmk....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > Dear all,
> >>> > I have doubts in the binomial of this plant.
> >>> > Is this *Phoenix loureirii** *Kunth var.* humilis* (Becc.) S.C. Barrow
> >>> > or *Phoenix
> >>> > humilis* Royle.?
>
> >>> > Which one is the recent & accepted name?
> >>> > Mature stems reach up to 0.90 metre in height and these are found on
> >>> high
> >>> > elevations [1000 - 1500msl].
>
> >>> > *Date/Time- 07 Mar 2010 12:00pm*
>
> >>> > *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- *Satyamangalam RF; Eastern Ghats. ca.
> >>> > 1400msl
>
> >>> > *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild*
>
> >>> > *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- short tree*
>
> >>> > *Height/Length- *0 to 1m*
> >>> > *
>
> >>> > *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- *1 - 1.2m length; pinnately compound
>
> >>> > *Inflorescence Type/ Size- panicle; 20 - 30cm length(along with rachis)
> >>> > *
>
> >>> > *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- *0.3-0.5cm across; tepals cream
> >>> > coloured
>
> >>> > *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- berry; on maturity is black*
>
> >>> > *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *no fragrance
>
> >>> > The leaves are collected extensively for making broomsticks and
> >>> thatches.
> >>> > Fruits are eaten by animals; the pith of the plant(mature) is eaten by
> >>> local
> >>> > people.
> >>> > --
> >>> > Muthu Karthick, N
> >>> > Junior Research Fellow
> >>> > Care Earth Trust
> >>> > Chennai - 61www.careearthtrust.org
>
> >>> >  d 008.jpg
> >>> > 333KViewDownload
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> >>> >  IMG_4018.JPG
> >>> > 216KViewDownload
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> >>> >  IMG_4025.JPG
> >>> > 138KViewDownload
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> >>> >  IMG_4028.JPG
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> >>> >  Z 054.jpg
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> >>> >  Z 060.jpg
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> >>> >  Z 113.jpg
> >>> > 398KViewDownload
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