Any any final decision in the matter pl. On 17-Oct-2017 8:30 PM, "Chitralekha P" <p_chitrale...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Thank you Pradip ji. It does not look like *P. dasyrhachis *as the > pedicels are as long as the sepals/calyx (attached photo). What about *P. > dubium? *I am not able to access any information on this particular > species. > With best regards, > Chitralekha > > > On Tuesday, 17 October 2017 12:41 PM, Pradip Krishen < > treesofde...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I looked up *Peltophorum* when I got back last night. There appear to be > 2 distinct species with branched stipules: One is the African wattle (*P. > africanum*) and the other is *P. dasyrrachis* > > I am sending you something from Notes I took on this latter species, which > might be of interest: > > MOBOT lists *Peltophorum dasyrrhachis* var. *tonkinensis* (Pierre) K. > Larsen & S.S. Larsen > Flora of Tropical east Africa - Says there are 3 species cultivated in > East Africa, with similar yellow flowers and a peltate stigma, and a > flattened indehiscent pod winged along both sutures... > The differences are:- > *Peltophorum africanum* Sond. – native of southern tropical and South > Africa, with 10-28 pairs of leaflets per pinna – the leaflets *mucronate* > at apex and about 0.3-1(-1.2) cm long x 0.1-0.45 cm wide; pedicels at > flowering time about 1-1.5 times as long as the calyx. > *Peltophorum dasyrhachis* (Miq.) Bak. – native of tropical Asia; foliage > as in *P. pterocarpum*, *subulately branched stipules*, lateral *un*branched > racemes and pedicels +/- 3-4 times as long as its calyx. > *Peltophorum pterocarpum* (DC.) K. Heyne [syn. *P. ferrugineum* (Decne.) > Benth.; *P. inerme* (Roxb.) Naves; *P. roxburghii* (G.Don) Degener – > native of tropical Asia & Australia, with 10-19 pairs of leaflets per pinna > which are *emarginate and without a mucro at apex*; +/- 0.8-3 cm long x > 0.35-0.9 cm wide; small *un*branched stipules; racemes aggregated into a > *terminal* panicle; pedicels at flowering time at most as long as the > calyx. > > I hope this helps and doesn't cause more confusion! > with best wishes > > Pradip > > > On 15 October 2017 at 13:51, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, Pradeep ji, > May I request you to pl. give your final word for species id. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *J.M. Garg* <jmga...@gmail.com> > Date: 8 October 2017 at 11:53 > Subject: Fwd: Fwd: [efloraofindia:278614] Peltophorum > To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups. com > <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>> > Cc: chitralekha P <p_chitrale...@yahoo.co.in> > > > Thanks, Chitralekha ji. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *'Chitralekha P' via efloraofindia* <indiantree...@googlegroups.co m > <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>> > Date: 7 October 2017 at 21:24 > Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:278614] Peltophorum > To: "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia > <indiantree...@googlegroups.co > m <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>> > > > Thank you Pradip Kishan ji. I had gone through your book "Trees of Delhi" > but could not find description of *Peltophorum **dubium. *So have not > found answer to my question yet; how does one differentiate between *P. > dubium *and *P. africanum?* > I have attached photos of stipules and fruits. Look very like those of *P. > africanum.* > Regards, > Chitralekha > > > On Friday, 6 October 2017 12:46 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks, Pradip ji. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Pradip Krishan* > Date: 6 October 2017 at 12:14 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:278277] Peltophorum > To: "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> > > > The surest way of discriminating between these *Peltophorums* is from the > stipules (pls see my treatment of *Peltophorum* in Trees of Delhi) > I'd like to see a close up of the stipule before being sure... > > regards > > Pradip > > On 5 October 2017 at 12:51, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Forwarding for id. pl. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *'Chitralekha P' via efloraofindia* <indiantree...@googlegroups.co m > <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>> > Date: 2 October 2017 at 11:09 > Subject: [efloraofindia:278277] Peltophorum > To: Abridged Recipients <indiantree...@googlegroups.co m > <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>> > > > Dear friends, > Kindly identify the species of *Peltophorum*; is it *P. dubium or P. > africanum*? The plant is growing in Delhi and flowers in > August/September. 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