I have been to this famous temple and seen the tree with the nails and also the mentally sick women who come there to heal.It is a great miracle that after so many long iron nails pricked into its bark the tree is still living. What about the patients? Are they cured or is it just a supersition?
Regards, Mani. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Smilax004 <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > I had been to Chotanikkara temple several occassions and I do remember > the tree. It is Alstonia scholaris only. All of you are correct with > the vernacular names. But, in Kerala all plants that produce milky > latex and belong to the family Apocynaceae and asclepiadaceae are > referred as pala. Here A. scholaris is commonly known in Kerala as > Ezhilam Pala (Ezhila= 7 leaves referring the 7 leaflets of the leaf of > A. scholaris). I have never seen a Palaquim ellipticum on road side or > public places in Kerala. This plant is called as Pali in Malayalam. > > Raghu, > > Your first two and 4th(?) pictures are of A. scholaris with > F.religiosa and what about the remaining two? I think those are > pictures of free standing huge Ficus religiosa (Arayal in Mal). I > think the photographs are of two different individuals? I remmber one > huge Ficus religiosa at the front gate of the temple. As Dr Anil Kumar > said there is one F.religiosa growing as a hemi-epiphyte on > A.scholaris as well. > > > Gurcharan ji, > > There are lots of other hemi-epiphytes growing on the huge trunk of > the F. religiosa. Therefore, i think you refer to hanging leaves of > such hemi-epiphytes. > > > Regards, > Giby > > > > > On Apr 21, 3:01 pm, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Anil ji > > You may be right, in the first photograph young peepal trees are seen > along > > the trunk, but I am not sure these photographs belong to the famous Pala > > tree of Chottannikkara temple in Kerala. The tree these seems to be > > different, with much smaller leaves hanging down and not definitely > peepal. > > See the link below: > > > > http://www.chottanikkara.com/History.htm > > > > http://www.chottanikkara.com/aalmaram.htm > > > > <http://www.chottanikkara.com/aalmaram.htm> > > > > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > Retired Associate Professor > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Dr.ANIL KUMAR <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear members > > > > > i might be wrong in identification but it seems to be a peepal tree > > > Ficus religiosa growing on the trunk of pala tree Alistonia. if > > > people worship pala tree thn it must be alistonia only. > > > > > On Apr 21, 10:33 am, "R. Vijayasankar" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > I fully agree with you Gurcharan ji, > > > > > > But due to lots of disturbances (such as too much of neiling) and > > > resulted > > > > continuous & irregular callous formation, the original structure and > > > shape > > > > of the trunk could have been changed. > > > > > > Let's here from our Kerala member friends. > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Gurcharan Singh < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Yes Vijayasankar ji > > > > > Alstonia scholaris is one of the many plants known by this name as > I > > > > > mentioned in my post, but looking at the tree in the photograph the > > > massive > > > > > trunk and leaves don't appear to be that of Alstonia. The two > closest I > > > > > mentioned as Manilkara hexandra and Palaquium ellipticum. Let us > wait > > > for > > > > > more responses. > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > > > > Retired Associate Professor > > > > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > > > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > > > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > > > >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:37 AM, R. Vijayasankar < > > > [email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> As far as i know, 'Pala' in Malayalam refers to *Alstonia > scholaris*. > > > I > > > > >> was told that the name 'Palakkad' (kad means forest) came due to > the > > > > >> predominent occurrence of 'pala' i.e. Alstonia scholaris trees. > > > > > > >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > >>> Rather difficult to zoom in. In Tam. and Mar. Pala tree refers to > > > > >>> Alstonia scholaris; In Hindi and Mar. Pala refers to Carmona > > > microphylla > > > > >>> (Ehretiaceae), in Mal. it refers to Cryptostegia grandiflora; in > > > Tel. it is > > > > >>> for Holarrehena antidysenterica; Tam., Mal. it is for Manilkara > > > hexandra; > > > > >>> Mal., it is for Palaquium ellipticum, Eng. (Pala indigo) for > Wrightia > > > > >>> tinctoria, Tam., Mal. for W. tomentosa, Raj. for Ziziphus > nummularia. > > > > > > >>> I would chose between Manilkara hexandra and Palaquium > > > ellipticum. > > > > >>> Any clues? > > > > > > >>> -- > > > > >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > > > >>> Retired Associate Professor > > > > >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > > > >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > > > >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > > > >>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > > > >>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:06 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >>>> Any Bot. name for the tree? > > > > > > >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > >>>> From: raghu ananth <[email protected]> > > > > >>>> Date: 13 March 2010 12:14 > > > > >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:29693] On Pala tree bark, exorcism > practices > > > ... > > > > >>>> To: [email protected] > > > > > > >>>> On Pala tree bark, exorcism practices.. > > > > > > >>>> An age old, huge Pala tree with long iron nails pricked into its > > > bark. > > > > >>>> As a last resort, Mentally ill or people considered to be the > > > victims of > > > > >>>> evil spirits come to this tree hammer on children dolls with > nails > > > into the > > > > >>>> bark from their fore-heads. > > > > > > >>>> Sri Chottanikkara temple, Near Cochin, Kerala > > > > >>>> 30 Dec 2008 > > > > > > >>>> Check this link on exorcism practices. 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