Thanks, Pankaj ji. On 07-Feb-2018 4:56 AM, "Pankaj Kumar" <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok I see that on googlesites of eflora its writen the other way, which is > wrong!! Sorry.... > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Its funny but the whole discussion here is wrong. >> Taxonomy is an opinion and its the opinion that changes and not the >> taxonomy. Its an art which different people understand differently. >> Why this discussion is funny, because: >> 2.The efloraofindia site lists *Cleome viscosa *as a synonym of* Arivela >> viscosa* >> Ref:https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- >> -l/cl/cleomaceae/arivela/cleome-viscosa >> >> NO ITS NOT TRUE ON MY SCREEN. I SEE ARIVELA VISCOA AS SYNONYM OF CLEOME >> VISCOSA >> >> 3.The Plant List reckons *Arivela viscosa* and *Cleome viscosa *as >> distinct from each other*.* >> Ref - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=cleome+viscosa >> Ref - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=cleome+viscosa >> >> NO ITS NOT TRUE, I SEE ARIVELA VISCOA AS SYNONYM OF CLEOME VISCOSA >> >> Yes to me your plant does look like Cleome viscosa L. (Syn: Arivela >> viscosa (L.) Raf.). >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:29 AM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Lalithamba ji. >>> >>> On 06-Feb-2018 8:40 PM, "Lalithamba Avadhanam" <alalitha...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The Plant is Cleome viscosa L., >>>> Regarding name change, after some review by a taxonomist the names may >>>> be changed; it is a continuous process, hence many plants of so many >>>> synonyms, As Garg ji said, we have to apply our mind; or if we write the >>>> old name it should be written with author's name and publication, it is not >>>> a great error not to know the ever changing names, for we are accustomed to >>>> use one name for so many years! >>>> Thank you >>>> regards >>>> A.Lalithamba >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:47 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No single source is the best option. We have to apply our mind to each >>>>> and every taxon and take our decision according. Accepted name of a taxon >>>>> keep on changing as you can see from time to time and from one flora to >>>>> another flora. There are lot of reasons for that. Like some taxonomist >>>>> splits a genus into many genera resulting in species moving to these >>>>> different genera. Another taxonomist in future may lump them again into >>>>> the >>>>> same genus. Taxonomy is constantly changing with every new publication. As >>>>> long as we identify a plant correctly, we should be happy without worrying >>>>> if the name is an accepted name or a synonym. I think in the age of >>>>> search, >>>>> we should be quite comfortable with it. >>>>> Sometimes I do not change to the current names given in say Catalogue >>>>> of Life, as we have keys of these species only as per the old nomenclature >>>>> and we are quite used to these names. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 06-Feb-2018 4:05 PM, "Saroj Kumar Kasaju" <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Earlier I was following the CofL but some one suggested ( I forgot >>>>>> the name ) >>>>>> that the PL is better option. However, I guess we should follow the >>>>>> CofL for ID >>>>>> now on wards. But I found some ID completely different in the CofL. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 6:23:53 AM UTC+5:45, JM Garg wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We can check what Catalogue of Life says which has been updated >>>>>>> recently and appears to be much better than The Plant List. The Plant >>>>>>> List >>>>>>> was based on fixed data provided to them in 2012 by various service >>>>>>> providers like WCSP etc. The underlined never changed after that. On the >>>>>>> other hand data in Catalogue is changed on day to day basis and is >>>>>>> based on >>>>>>> latest sources. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 05-Feb-2018 10:06 PM, "tsp kumar" <tspkuma...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2.The efloraofindia site lists *Cleome viscosa *as a synonym of* >>>>>>>> Arivela >>>>>>>> viscosa* >>>>>>>> Ref:https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- >>>>>>>> -l/cl/cleomaceae/arivela/cleome-viscosa >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3.The Plant List reckons *Arivela viscosa* and *Cleome viscosa *as >>>>>>>> distinct from each other*.* >>>>>>>> Ref - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=cleome+viscos >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> Ref - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=Arivela >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This ambiguity needs to be cleared. >>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:28 PM, tsp kumar <tspkuma...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Prashant ji for the lead. >>>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:20 PM, Prashant Awale <pkaw...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Looks like Cleome viscosa .. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Prashant >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:16 PM, tsp kumar <tspkuma...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kindly examine and identify this plant. Could this be a *Cleome >>>>>>>>>>> *sp.....? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Habit: Herb >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Habitat: Wild,Wasteland by a roadside >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sighting: Tumkur,Karnataka,about 800 msl >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: 05-07-2016 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> tspkumar >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Deputy Conservator of Forests (R) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tumkur,Karnataka >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ph:9880571585 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *“We have not inherited this planet from our forefathers, we >>>>>>>>>>> have borrowed it from our children”-An American proverb* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou >>>>>>>>>>> p/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to itpm...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to itpm...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ************************************************************ >> ********************************************************** >> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >> >> *Office*: >> >> Conservation Officer >> >> Orchid Conservation Section >> >> Flora Conservation Department >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> *Residence*: >> House no. 39, 2nd Floor, Shui Wo Tsuen >> Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; 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