Sir recently I saw Ardisia solanacea at Anashi WLS Karnataka, at several places on a particular track. The new leaves were lighter green and shining , older leaves were darker green. I have uploaded the same on 10 May '10. The Plants Shubhada has posted from Goa too are A. solanacea, perfectly matching the description and what we saw at Anashi.
Dinesh ji's plant leaves are not distinctly crenate but neither are they very distinctly entire. So it is definately not A. solanacea but it is doubtful whether it can be A. parviflora as you have mentioned. Also quoting the entire defination from Dr. Almeida's flora for A. parviflora if it is of any help: " A small erect, branched shrub. Leaves coriaceous, 8-11 by 2.5 - 4 cm, obovate, acute, distinctly crenate, pellucido- puncate, base cuneate; petioles 6 mm long. Flowers small, 8-12 cm across, in simple pedunculate axillary or terminal umbels about half as long as the leaves. Corolla small, white, not pink nor spotted. Fruit size of a pea, globose, not striate, red when ripe. " regards, Rashida. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Rashida ji, Dinesh ji and Pardeshi ji > > I don't have personal knowledge about genus Ardisia, but here are some > observations: > Agreed, even my Brandis Indian trees say leaves entire, flowers pinkish in > A. solanacea and distantly crenate with white flowers in S. parviflora. > I think the photographs uploaded by Pardeshi ji and Dinesh ji belong to > the same species, although pinkish tinge is not seen in buds of Dinesh ji's > photos. The leaves, however, are so similar in shape, colour, texture and > size, as if taken from the same plant. To me they belong to the same > species. They carry no trace of crenation as such can't be A. parviflora. > One thing seems very obvious. The plant uploaded by Shubhada ji is > different from either of the other two. The leaves are much broader, lighter > green in colour, shining with prominent veins as against the other two. I > think it can't be A. solanacea, if other two are. > I think the search for correct identity is on. > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> > > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Rashida Atthar <atthar.rash...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Dr. Gurcharan ji, according to Dr. Almeida's flora of Mah. pg 160 , >> Ardisia parviflora flowers are white ( not coloured or spotted) and leaves >> distinctly crenate. Flowers pinkish or spotted with pink leaves entire are >> Ardisia solanacea. I think both the sets are of Ardisia only, with Dinesh >> ji's set being of A. parviflora. >> >> regards, >> Rashida. >> >> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Please see my last comment >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> >>> Date: Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:27 PM >>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:28978] Request for id - 310110_Goa_SSN_2 >>> To: shubhada nikharge <shubhada_nikha...@yahoo.co.in> >>> Cc: tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com>, Dr Santhosh Kumar < >>> drsanthosh1...@gmail.com>, satish pardeshi <satishparde...@gmail.com>, >>> "Dr. Pankaj Kumar" <sahanipan...@gmail.com>, Shrikant Ingalhalikar < >>> le...@rediffmail.com>, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> Dear members >>> I think the matter has still to be resolved. This plant and one uploaded >>> by Dinesh look different. Only one of them can be Ardisia solanacea. Pl. >>> compare the two and give your opinion. >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:19 PM, shubhada nikharge < >>> shubhada_nikha...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> Thanx very much for the efforts taken to confirm the id which was >>>> pending for a long time. >>>> Thanks a lot. >>>> sorry for the delayed reply. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Shubhada >>>> >>>> >>>> "I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I >>>> can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do." >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> >>>> *To:* Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> >>>> *Cc:* Dr Santhosh Kumar <drsanthosh1...@gmail.com>; efloraofindia < >>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>; shubhada nikharge < >>>> shubhada_nikha...@yahoo.co.in>; satish pardeshi < >>>> satishparde...@gmail.com>; Dr. Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com>; >>>> Shrikant Ingalhalikar <le...@rediffmail.com>; Dinesh Valke < >>>> dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>>> *Sent:* Sun, 7 March, 2010 8:42:49 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:28978] Request for id - 310110_Goa_SSN_2 >>>> >>>> Dear All. >>>> I will definitely support the thought of Dr. Santosh Kumar ji regarding >>>> the identification of this much discussed plant. I also added a link in my >>>> previous thread which consisted a photo of *A solanacea* and it >>>> undoubtedly matched with the photographs attached. I will also like to >>>> thank >>>> him for increasing my confidence on concluding this plant as *A >>>> solanacea*. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Tanay >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Santosh Kumar ji, for final conclusion. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Dr Santhosh Kumar < >>>>> drsanthosh1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This is without any doubt Ardisia solanacea, commonly known as >>>>>> Manimundakizhangu in Malayalam. >>>>>> >>>>>> Santhosh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5 March 2010 12:11, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Resurfacing again for ID >>>>>>> The plant has undergone lots of discussion, but still unresolved >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pankaj ji and Shrikant >>>>>>> ji...............................................Ardisia solanacea >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Satish pardesi ji and Dinesh ji..................................... >>>>>>> doubted it being A. solanacea. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: shubhada nikharge <shubhada_nikha...@yahoo.co.in> >>>>>>> Date: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:12 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:27105] Request for id - 310110_Goa_SSN_2 >>>>>>> To: indian tree pix <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> request for id. >>>>>>> pics taken at Mollem wildlife sanctuary, Goa on 30th Jan 2010. >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Shubhada >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "I am only one; but still I am one. 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