Yes Pankaj. Such debate is everywhere, in Nepal also. Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 6:45 am, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Because grandiflorus is said to be "not native to China". > There are many exotic plants in HK planted by various people from time to > time. So much so, that there are now two group of thoughts for few species. > Some say species X is planted, some say it was once found in wild and what > we see are just remaining plants. > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 22:11, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ok Mr. Garg. >> >> Thnk you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 7:09 pm, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I think Flora of China does not list both the Species- so that >>> comparison can be made. >>> >>> >>> On Tue 9 Oct, 2018, 6:41 PM Saroj Kasaju, <kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china//PDF/PDF12/Elaeocarpus.pdf ??? >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 11:27 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji. You mean to say the posted plant here is >>>>> Elaeocarpus grandiflorus with slightly broader leaves. >>>>> Is their no other substantial difference which can be observed in >>>>> images ? >>>>> >>>>> We have similar confusion in our posts at Elaeocarpus hainanensis >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/elaeaocarpaceae/elaeocarpus/elaeocarpus-hainanensis>. >>>>> Pl. see. If we follow this suggestion, all our posts except yours and >>>>> Saroj >>>>> ji's may be Elaeocarpus grandiflorus. >>>>> Can we get detailed keys somewhere to authoritatively sort out these >>>>> species ? >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 07:29, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> One of my friends in China says the one with broader leaf is >>>>>> grandiflorus. It is not reported from HK or China in wild. >>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 06:25, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I will recheck and get back to you. Obviously both are Elaeocarpus, >>>>>>> on with denticulate margin and narrow leaf is surely hainanensis. Need >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> confirm second one. >>>>>>> Thanks.. >>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 00:07, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> great, i am relieved >>>>>>>> the serrated leaves had bothered me, >>>>>>>> i even mentioned the serration, >>>>>>>> my mistake was not to think laterally into another group >>>>>>>> altogether. >>>>>>>> thanksPankaj >>>>>>>> learned a lesson >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> so i agree this is as you say Elaeocarpus hainanensis. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> iti >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Pankaj Kumar < >>>>>>>> sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is Elaeocarpus hainanensis. >>>>>>>>> Kindly look at the bracts on the inflorescence. Very typical. >>>>>>>>> Who has seen that bract and serrate leaf in Cerbera manghas? >>>>>>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 12:32, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry, it should be :Thanks, Mahadeswara ji >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed 19 Sep, 2018, 10:01 AM J.M. Garg, <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Saroj ji >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed 19 Sep, 2018, 8:53 AM Mahadeswara, <swamy.c...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> pictures posted are not of *C.monghas* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 2:53:13 AM UTC+5:30, Ushadi >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> swaroj ji >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> i am confused too >>>>>>>>>>>>> is not your post here a cerbera? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> i hope pankaj looks at the pictures again >>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>> kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Pankaj, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is your comment on my right post ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 2:59 PM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 1:06 PM Pankaj Kumar, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sahani...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elaeocarpus hainanensis I meant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 15:37, Pankaj Kumar < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sahani...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting. Few days back you asked me if this fruits or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is ocarpus hainanensis, in fruits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a native tree to Hong Kong. Protected in Hong Kong. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for sharing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 01:09, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> micromi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cerbera sp? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here the leaves are finely serrated (they are entire in c >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> odollam as i have seen ) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the twigs bearing the fruit appear different than >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what i seen on c. odollam. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:00 PM, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Victoria Harbour, Hong Kong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 13 August 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 200 ft. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Cultivated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indian...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; 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You can also use them for free as >>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>> >>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>>> India'. >>>>> >>>> -- >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> > > > -- > ****************************************************** > **************************************************************** > *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. > *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* > > *Office*: > > Orchid Conservation Section > > Flora Conservation Department > > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China > > *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com > *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 > (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 > > -- Thank you. Saroj Kasaju -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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