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-----Original Message----- From: Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 19:48:09 To: Pankaj Oudhia<[email protected]> Cc: efloraofindia<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:35966] NATIVE :: Arecaceae (palm family) » Caryota urens Hello friends, In Kerala, people feed tame elephants on the fonds from this tree. However, Pankaj ji, the idea of cultivating these trees in the forest will not help because the elephants knock down these trees even before they are fully grown. They not only love the fonds but also the tender stem which you will find very tasty something like a half mature coconut. I am not able to grow coconut because they frequent our place daily and especially now a days as the jack fruits are getting ripe. They knock down even my coconut trees. I have allowed the locals to carry away as many jack fruits as they like even after that there are still plenty and the elephants, the malabar squirrels, the birds, the monkeys all enjoy it. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for name in Malayalam. In Orissa it is known as Salap. > > Few years back I was in Niyamgiri hill region of Orissa where Bauxite mining > is proposed. Action Aid assigned me to visit the region for photography as > well as Biodiversity study. Salap trees are present in large number in this > biodiversity rich zone. Niyamgiri is rich in wild elephant population. I was > informed that elephants like this species much. The natives suggested many > species best for plantation in forest in order to keep wild elephants at > bay. Salap is one of these species. I quoted it in my articles with > reference to natives but as you know planners never give ear to native's > suggestions. Today I was reading in local news papers that the authorities > are constructing 16 feet towers to accomodate tens of families in time of > attack by wild elephants. Unfortunately there is no ground level plan to > plant Salap like trees. > > VijayaDas ji, I am eager to know the medicinal uses of this tree in Kerala. > In Chhattisgarh, its all parts are used in Traditional Healing even in > complex schedules like this > > http://www.pankajoudhia.com/nwork/set400.pdf > > http://pankajoudhia.com/newwork.html > > > I am sorry if group members are getting bore from my monologue on Caryota. > > regards > > Pankaj Oudhia > > http://www.pankajoudhia.com > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Vijayadas D <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Olatty - in Malayalam. >> >> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:12 PM, tanay bose <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Great Set Of information from Pankaj ji and Dinesh ji, >>> I will kindly request Pankaj Ji that if he can upload photos of the >>> diseased tree then we can all see it , and will also help us to get hold of >>> the symptoms ans if possible remedy >>> >>> Tanay >>> >>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Madhuri ji's interesting query lead me to surf with Palm Jaggery ... >>>> 1) reminds of the famous bollywood movie "Saudagar" ... never knew we >>>> get jaggery from palm (and that too more priced than that from sugarcane) >>>> ... >>>> http://environmenteducation-india.blogspot.com/2009/10/learn-all-about-date-palm-jaggery-with.html >>>> 2) The sago palm and coconut palm are also now tapped for producing >>>> jaggery in South India, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka. >>>> ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaggery >>>> 3) best of reading on jaggery >>>> ... >>>> http://www.organicfacts.net/nutrition-facts/others/what-is-jaggery.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes Tanay is right. >>>>> >>>>> Many years back a patient having allergy contacted me. She was much >>>>> frustrated as after much investment in hospitals, the cause was still >>>>> unknown. I decided to go for detailed discussion. When our discussion >>>>> reached to Bengali Sweets, she informed that the taste of Gur used in the >>>>> sweets is like the taste of heaven. She was taking the sweets every day >>>>> without any break. I suggested her to stop its use up to one week. >>>>> >>>>> Later I was informed that she was having allergy to Phoenix Gur and >>>>> after stopping its consumption she was alright. It was very specific >>>>> case. I >>>>> am fond of Bengali Sweets and millions are also, but I never seen another >>>>> patient like this. >>>>> >>>>> Gur is prepared from Caryota also. >>>>> >>>>> In Bastar, Caryota is in danger. Trees are dying due to unknown >>>>> problem. Entomologists are claiming that it is due to insects, soil >>>>> scientists are claiming that it is due to soil factor. Everyone is having >>>>> own opinion. Thousands have been invested in the name of research with no >>>>> result. Many years back I raised this issue through my articles.I tried to >>>>> put the views and comments of Traditional Healers on this specific >>>>> problem. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> >>>>> Pankaj Oudhia >>>>> >>>>> http://www.pankajoudhia.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 6:02 PM, tanay bose <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Madhuri ji, >>>>>> In our Bengal we make Jaggery (Gur) from Phoenix sylvestris we also >>>>>> drink the fresh juice of its some people also take the fermented juice >>>>>> known >>>>>> as "Tari" >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Tanay >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Madhuri Pejaver >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> About Sulfi a lot of information is exchanged . but what i read in >>>>>>> the name list was one name as jaggary palm. I sthis the palm from >>>>>>> which we >>>>>>> get jaggary, which is famous from Bengal >>>>>>> Nothing is talked about it. or is it a different palm? >>>>>>> Madhuri >>>>>>> >>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>> From: Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 23 May, 2010 7:28:21 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:35708] NATIVE :: Arecaceae (palm family) >>>>>>> » Caryota urens >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some images of Bastar Beer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=42805 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=42811 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=42813 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=42812 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Satish ji. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pankaj Oudhia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Satish Chile <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Caryota urens in Bastar of Chhattisgarh state is known as Sulfy >>>>>>>> tree. A drink is extracted from the living plant which is called >>>>>>>> sulfy. This >>>>>>>> drink is also called Bastar Beer by the educated people. >>>>>>>> Satish >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Friends, >>>>>>>>> The ripe fruit of this palm causes some kind of temporary allergy. >>>>>>>>> Especially if after touching it, you get wet. Had a bad experience >>>>>>>>> when I was in my twenties. >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Yazdy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Dinesh Valke >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > Arecaceae (palm family) » Caryota urens >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > kair-ee-OH-tuh or kar-RY-oh-tuh -- from the Greek karyon (nut) >>>>>>>>> > UR-ens -- burning or stinging >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > commonly known as: bastard sago tree, fishtail palm, jaggery >>>>>>>>> > palm, toddy >>>>>>>>> > palm, wine palm • Hindi: बन खजूर ban-khajur, माड़ी mari • >>>>>>>>> > Kannada: ಬಯ್ನೆ >>>>>>>>> > bayne • Konkani: बिरलोमाड birlomaad • Malayalam: ചൂണ്ടപ്പന >>>>>>>>> > cuuntappana • >>>>>>>>> > Marathi: भेरली माड bherli-maad, सुरमाड sur-maad • Sanskrit: >>>>>>>>> > श्रीताल sritalah >>>>>>>>> > • Tamil: கூந்தற்பனை kuntaypanai, திப்பிலிப்பனை tippili-p-panai • >>>>>>>>> > Telugu: >>>>>>>>> > జిలుగు jeelugu >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Native to: India, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, Malaysia; widely cultivated >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > References: >>>>>>>>> > • Flowers of India ... >>>>>>>>> > http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Toddy%20Palm.html >>>>>>>>> > • NPGS / GRIN ... >>>>>>>>> > http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?9290 >>>>>>>>> > • Top Tropicals ... >>>>>>>>> > http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/caryota_urens.htm >>>>>>>>> > • Dave's Garden ... >>>>>>>>> > http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/56543/index.html >>>>>>>>> > • DDSA ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/ >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>>>>>>>> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>>>>>>>> > Views attached from: >>>>>>>>> > ... Vaghbil, Thane >>>>>>>>> > ... Veermata Jijabai Bhosale Udyan >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > For more views: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Caryotaurens&w=91314344%40N00&m=tags&z=m >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> > Google Groups >>>>>>>>> > "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dr. Satish Kumar Chile >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Tanay Bose >>>>>> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) >>>>>> 9830439691(Mobile) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tanay Bose >>> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) >>> 9830439691(Mobile) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "efloraofindia" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> Vijayadas D >> Horticulturist EstateSupervisorDeputy >> Salwa Garden Village, PB -7210 >> Riyadh -11462 , KSA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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