Thank you very very much Garg ji for this determined follow-up to resolve the ID. I will label my pictures accordingly.
Thank you very much for links to useful reference material, and for the crisp information. Regards. Dinesh On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 4:04 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, Dinesh ji, > I got a very good document for study along with keys: > Sreekumar V.B “Systematics and phylogeny of the genus calamus > linn.(arecaceae) in the western ghats ” Thesis. Kerala Forest Research > Institute,University of Calicut, 2004 > <https://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/55001/12/12_systamatic%20treatment.pdf> > FIELD IDENTIFICATION KEY FOR RATTANS OF KERALA > <http://www.docs.kfri.res.in/KFRI-RR/KFRI-RR188.pdf> (pdf)- by C. renuka > (2000)- 34 pages. > MORPHOLOGICAL, ANATOMICAL AND PHYSICAL PROPERTIES > <http://www.docs.kfri.res.in/KFRI-RR/KFRI-RR046.pdf>OF CALAMUS SPECIES OF > KERALA FORESTS <http://www.docs.kfri.res.in/KFRI-RR/KFRI-RR046.pdf> by > C.renuka, K M bhat and V P K Nambiar (1987)- 58 pages. > > I studied 2nd for the purpose of this post. Fruit matches with *Calamus > thwaitesii*. This cane grows in evergreen, semi-evergreen and moist > deciduous forests between 75 to 900 m throughout the Habit Western Ghats. > The distribution extends to Sri Lanka also. > > For *Calamus rotang*: > This species is restricted to the plains along coastal regions and > backwaters. Usually seen in the sacred groves and coastal regions of > Alappuzha and Kollam Districts. It is reported from Sri Lanka also. > > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 09:09, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Many thanks to Henderson ji for his thoughts. >> Thanks Garg ji for the follow-up. >> Let us hope we reach ID from keys and from any tell-tale characteristic >> from the pictures. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 8:51 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Dinesh ji, >>> Let us find keys and differences between the two. >>> >>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 19:53, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks very much Garg ji. I too was thinking of *Calamus thwaitesii*. >>>> Since I my pictures are not offering sufficient aspects, I think I will >>>> leave it at *Calamus* sp. >>>> At facebook, few suggestions of *Calamus rotang* came up. >>>> Let us settle at *Calamus* sp. for want of better pictures. >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:26 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> May be *Calamus thwaitesii* Becc. >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/arecaceae/calamus/calamus-thwaitesii> >>>>> >>>>> Pattern on fruits and inflorescence appears similar in structure. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 13:12 >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:330539] Calamus FOR ID :: Anshi Ghat :: 25 MAY >>>>> 2013 >>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [image: ... Anshi Ghat] >>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F16349694719&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEpuDPOUajg1lJsv0iMIqLvn3ehbw> >>>>> Anshi Ghat ... Karnataka >>>>> *Date*: 25 MAY 2013 ... *Altitude*: 340 - 380 m asl >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *Calamus* sp. ... (family: Arecaceae) >>>>> Dear friends, >>>>> I am afraid these pictures may not facilitate any ID to species level. >>>>> Yet, I am taking a chance if someone familiar with rattans can recognize >>>>> this species. Since there was no flowering then, the so many pictures >>>>> below, they all look alike - because they are showing only fruits !! >>>>> [image: Calamus sp.] >>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F8888479155%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEse3BhEPit-Yw9h7MrmIRIhahUrA> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Calamus sp.] >>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F8892246169%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGdMo7FAbwEeTXfGImdg3V0SIGONQ> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Calamus sp.] >>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F8889106716%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHanIm7XRprvKeEFzoHMEAJFpPbvQ> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Calamus sp.] >>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F8892827698%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF_Pso74oDuSGpl8pBFZ1QBcFH0Yg> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Calamus sp.] >>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F8892215539%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGKT6bZm6c9tNWqkYZU_mY5I67Zmw> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Calamus sp.] >>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F8892222585%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHNCA6xE5c0TZPjMvSKOe0qisoYYg> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Calamus sp.] >>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F8892238211%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEcPIMNWORzX7QXPhMcqADEaRaYhQ> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Calamus sp.] >>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F8892230259%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHdvqmr0wUMKwm5_arB2MM__EHP7A> >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC3rvcGS5reK6C6qL-2aNe2sbG-dcq_2LUCzb72kXB%3D6Aw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC3rvcGS5reK6C6qL-2aNe2sbG-dcq_2LUCzb72kXB%3D6Aw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>> >>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>> >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>> etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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