Yes, I agree. On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 18:28, dr.rakesh Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> Garg sir , in that case , we need to find out and standardise differences > between R. repens and R. elegans , if any . > Online , in Goggle books I found one reference ... unsatisfactory to me > ... flora of eastern Karnataka ... it has a comment stating two taxa can be > merged on further evaluation . > By the way , JCB Herbarium has Rungia elegans page without a reference > from any flora , and photos a mix of Rungia repens and Rungia elegans ... > page of Rungia repens has images of line diagram and herbariun sheet > belonging to R. repens while photographs belong to R. parviflora/pectinata > . > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020, 16:02 J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, Rakesh ji, >> Image 1 is Justicia concinna >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/justicia/rungia-elegans>, >> image 2 is Justicia pectinata >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/justicia/rungia-pectinata> >> Pl. post detailed images for image 3, in a separate mail. >> >> On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 at 20:08, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Rakesh ji. >>> I have always considered *Rungia* / *Justicia pectinata* to be an >>> *erect* herb, about 2 feet high, and as wide, many branched, with >>> *distant* nodes - at least relative to what I consider as *parviflora*. >>> I may be wrong. From my observations, the height of inflorescence and size >>> of flowers seem to vary in both species *pectinata* as well as >>> *parviflora* - depending on habitat. >>> There is a need for some field expert familiar to this genus to sort out >>> the confusion and mistakes. >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 7:26 PM dr.rakesh Singh < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dinesh sir , you are right in saying first one as distinct species ... >>>> it used to be Rungia repens ! >>>> ................... >>>> 2nd and 3rd ... well , I do not know ... >>>> There used to be Rungia pectinata and Rungia parviflora . I do not know >>>> how distinct those two are ... >>>> could not get clarity on facebook , efi or foi . >>>> Here in Surat I have this tiny flowered herbaceous plants ... I am >>>> seeing it since 2016 . >>>> In my zeal , on facebook I declared the one with larger spike and >>>> larger sterile bracts as R. pectinata , >>>> smaller one (image 3) as R. parviflora , and everyone agreed !!! >>>> Well , except myself . >>>> In 17 , I had been to Matheran , and saw plants identical to 2nd with >>>> overall reddish tinge ... in plenty . >>>> This February , in Tungi near Lonawala , again I saw plants identical >>>> to 2nd with reddish complexion . >>>> But I am yet to find anything like 3rd . Anywhere . >>>> Habitat... there are two spots in city limits where 2 and 3 are found , >>>> almost together . >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 6:59 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Rakesh ji for lining up images of *Justicia* (*Rungia*) spp. >>>>> To me IMAGE 1 is one species, and the rest IMAGE 2 and IMAGE 3 *could >>>>> be* one species - that is, the last two could have variations based >>>>> on habitat - this is purely my thought. >>>>> Will wait for comments. >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 1:43 PM dr.rakesh Singh < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you ! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 25, 2019 at 1:42:40 PM UTC+5:30, dr.rakesh >>>>>> Singh wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear members >>>>>>> Please set this straight for me . >>>>>>> I have got 3 species of erstwhile Rungia in Surat . >>>>>>> All 3 images are captured within last one month , inside Surat city >>>>>>> limits , >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: IMG_20191206_140246 - Copy.jpg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IMAGE 1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This one has flowers larger than 1 cm , one sided flowering spike >>>>>>> can be longer than 15 cms , >>>>>>> >>>>>>> erect to procumbent , much branched , usually single inflorescence >>>>>>> spike at tip of branches >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> .................................. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: IMG_20191214_085357 - Copy.jpg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IMAGE 2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This one is again erect to procumbent , spikes at nodes in bunches >>>>>>> >>>>>>> most of them about 3 to 5 cm long , flowers blue 2-3 mm , >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sterile bracts on behind are longer than fertile bracts . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ...................................... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: WP_20191119_016 - Copy.jpg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IMAGE 3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mostly procumbent , much branched , multiple short spikes at nodes , >>>>>>> >>>>>>> only few of them enlarge to a max 3.5 cm , shorter than previous one >>>>>>> , >>>>>>> >>>>>>> tiny blue flowers about 2-3 mm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/e82e22e9-092d-42e6-aea4-59cf1a16eeea%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/e82e22e9-092d-42e6-aea4-59cf1a16eeea%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC0XE7xWgLyCfKBQpmbhZ4EuSf_9vrTZ4kR6bnt5ac3ubQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC0XE7xWgLyCfKBQpmbhZ4EuSf_9vrTZ4kR6bnt5ac3ubQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC2FC4wKQ3y2QQFmaVFAC%3DD4OgkEdU3S52s_TWRffbSBcg%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC2FC4wKQ3y2QQFmaVFAC%3DD4OgkEdU3S52s_TWRffbSBcg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >> Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >> 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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