Yes , sir . Pedicel is given as 8 mm , which is certainly longer looking in your photo . Suppose pedicel in your image , Dinesh sir , is 8 mm then where that leaves the corolla (15 mm) and Leaf (6-8 cm X 4 cm) ? What I see in your images is longer pedicel , longer than petiole plus leaf more or less looking like S. acuta . . . for these two features , I had suggested S. ravii .
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 7:05 PM Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote: > Rakesh ji, I glanced through the document > A_Synopsis_of_the_genus_Sida_L._Malvaceae at your given link > It gives a key that differentiates scabrida from *rhombifolia*. ... > *scabrida* has *concolorus leaves* and *not jointed pedicels*. > I am attaching a cropped picture - hope above characters can be made out > in the cropped picture. > > Rakesh ji, at Kerala Plants, I found almost all the measurements. Do you > find any particular not matching ? > > Leaves *6-8 x 4 cm, rhomboid, acuminate at apex, rounded at base*, > coarsely serrate on upper half; *petiole 8 mm long,; stipule 8 mm long*, > filiform. > Flowers axillary ... *calyx 7 mm across, lobes triangular, acute (deduced > from the buds that are seen); corolla 15 mm across*. > Flowering & Fruiting: *September-January * > > Garg ji, I was not able to find monograph. > > > In all, posted plant must be *Sida rhombifolia* var. *scabrida*. > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:15 PM dr.rakesh Singh <dr.rakeshpsi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Please also see this >> http://keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Sida_scabrida >> Measurements do not match up . >> >> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:45 PM Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Rakesh ji and Garg ji. >>> I will go through your links tomorrow evening. >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:11 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Rakesh ji. >>>> Hi, Dinesh ji >>>> Pl. also go through the Monograph. >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J. M. Garg >>>> >>>> On Tue 7 Jan, 2020, 7:29 PM dr.rakesh Singh, <dr.rakeshpsi...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.academia.edu/28316139/A_Synopsis_of_the_genus_Sida_L._Malvaceae_from_Maharashtra_India?fbclid=IwAR2T-iscywk68QdUdVpsxK642hOTDH9BL0YRjvFhdixrKtNe1wTO3PAM9Gk >>>>> >>>>> This paper provides a very different image for Sida scabrida . Dinesh >>>>> sir can relook into his raw images and tell us whether pedicel is jointed >>>>> or non-jointed . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:10 PM Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks very much Garg ji; I too thought of same name. >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 5:07 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think better to follow *Sida rhombifolia var. scabrida* (Wight & >>>>>>> Arn.) Mast. as per Catalogue of Life and Monograph of S.India Malvaceae. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 15:19, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Only one question that follows is : >>>>>>>> *Sida scabrida* Wight & Arn. >>>>>>>> OR >>>>>>>> *Sida rhombifolia var. scabrida* (Wight & Arn.) Mast. as per >>>>>>>> Catalog of Life >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:06 PM Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Garg ji and Sasidharan ji for the ID !! >>>>>>>>> I checked at Flora of Peninsular India >>>>>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=5663&cat=7> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> It looks like the species is endemic to Kerala state. >>>>>>>>> And the page gives reference to Literature : *Sasidharan, N*. >>>>>>>>> 2011. Flowering plants of Kerala. DVD, V2, KFRI. >>>>>>>>> Thank you very much Sasidharan ji. >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 2:35 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, Dinesh ji and Rakesh ji, >>>>>>>>>> I was mentioning this under Subspecies of Sida rhombifolia >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/pOchNf2csCc> >>>>>>>>>> Pl. check further. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 14:34, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Sasidharan ji. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>> From: nanu sasidharan >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 13:56 >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:336764] Sida FOR ID :: Banasura >>>>>>>>>>> Sagar Dam, Wayanad :: 15 NOV 19 >>>>>>>>>>> To: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sida scabrida >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sasidharan >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:03 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>>>>>>> To me also looks different from Sida rhombifolia subsp. >>>>>>>>>>>> rhombifolia >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/sida/sida-rhombifolia> >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> other species available at Sida >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/sida> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 15:19 >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:336764] Sida FOR ID :: Banasura Sagar >>>>>>>>>>>> Dam, Wayanad :: 15 NOV 19 >>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Banasura Sagar Dam, Wayanad] >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F49161473796%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHZKf8lCNH2Z63iMwwLw4hDy6UWGQ> >>>>>>>>>>>> Banasura Sagar Dam Wayanad >>>>>>>>>>>> *Date*: November 15, 2019 ... *Altitude*: about 980 m (3,200 >>>>>>>>>>>> ft) asl >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sida* ¿ species ? >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>>>>>> This does not look like *cordata* or *cordifolia* ... OR may >>>>>>>>>>>> be I am wrong with my earlier collection. Please help ID, if these >>>>>>>>>>>> photos >>>>>>>>>>>> help. >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Sida sp.] >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F49110017463%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711901930591%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFw6S7mCaCWnXcNa5MrHqb6x7kYmg> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Sida sp.] >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F49110716917%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711901930591%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGZTloiOTHyNUno0E3tLccW3NI3ow> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Sida sp.] >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F49110517371%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711901930591%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGxXc9cPmecAyDY4IxhGwZdxiOWqg> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Sida sp.] >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F49110715002%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711901930591%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFzcxMJ-t2eRwtU8PaFUPRzR5qUQQ> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC3T5GVrnX%3DysJknPQ%2BLa%2BLBGF5P0bMbz7Bt98h%2BBbAwUA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC3T5GVrnX%3DysJknPQ%2BLa%2BLBGF5P0bMbz7Bt98h%2BBbAwUA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google >>>>>>>>>>>> e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>>>>>>>>>> (largest >>>>>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on >>>>>>>>>>>> 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of >>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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