Yes. *Rubus alceifolius*

On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 17:13, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks, Sawmliana ji.
>
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> From: M Sawmliana <[email protected]>
> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 17:00
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:342474] MS Feb, 2020/03 Rubus sp. for ID
> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
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>
> Sir, another images of Rubus sp. is attached herewith for n/a
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 4:19 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Sawmliana ji,
>> May I request you to pl. post high resolution image to check the features
>> mentioned in the book.
>>
>>
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>> From: M Sawmliana <[email protected]>
>> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 16:15
>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:342474] MS Feb, 2020/03 Rubus sp. for ID
>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> Enclosed 553 pages of Flora of Mizoram vol-I
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 11:31 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Lucid Central
>>> <https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/rubus_alceifolius.htm>
>>> gives the following difference between the two:
>>> Giant bramble (*Rubus alceifolius*) is often confused with Molucca
>>> bramble (*Rubus moluccanus*), which is sometimes also known as "wild
>>> raspberry". These two species can be distinguished by the following
>>> differences:
>>>
>>>    - giant bramble (*Rubus alceifolius* ) has relatively large leaves
>>>    (8.5-20 cm long) with 5-7 shallow lobes. There are a pair of relatively
>>>    large (about 15 mm long and 15 mm wide) leafy structures (i.e. stipules) 
>>> on
>>>    the stem near the base of each leaf stalk (i.e. petiole). The flowers are
>>>    white and the fruit are made up of numerous segments (i.e. 110-180 
>>> carpels).
>>>    - Molucca bramble (*Rubus moluccanus*) has relatively small leaves
>>>    (4.5-15 cm long) that are unlobed or three-lobed. There are a pair
>>>    of relatively small (about 12 mm long and 6 mm wide) leafy structures 
>>> (i.e.
>>>    stipules) on the stem near the base of each leaf stalk (i.e. petiole). 
>>> The
>>>    flowers may be white or pink and the* fruit are made up of
>>>    relatively few segments (i.e. 35-70 carpels).*
>>>
>>> Pl. check.
>>>
>>> I think* Rubus alceifolius *has not been reported from India (but
>>> reported from Myanmar) so far on checking at net as per Catalogue of Life
>>> CABI <https://www.cabi.org/isc/datasheet/47978>  WSSA
>>> <http://wssa.net/wp-content/uploads/Rubus-alceifolius.pdf>  Flora of
>>> China
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242345340>.
>>> Pl. also see other links on it at Plant Net
>>> <http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Rubus~alceifolius>
>>> GISD <http://www.iucngisd.org/gisd/species.php?sc=1265>  Useful
>>> Tropical Plants
>>> <http://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Rubus+alceifolius>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 14:13, M Sawmliana <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you sir for the id. R.alceifolia ?
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 4:25:09 PM UTC+5:30, Saroj Kumar Kasaju
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess Paradesi is right !
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 10:18 PM Paradesi Anjaneyulu <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Resembles moluccanus,
>>>>>> With regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2020, 19:41 M Sawmliana <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Location : Ailawng, Mizoram
>>>>>>> Date : 07-09-2018
>>>>>>> Habit : Scrambling shrub
>>>>>>> Habitat : Wild
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>> M.Sawmliana
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