Finally! Thank you Ashutosh Ji / Mr. Garg / Raswat Ji!

Melanoseris cyanea Edgew.
Syn : Cicerbita cyanea (D. Don) P. Beauv.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 1:59 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Ashutosh ji as per GBIF
> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=NP&taxon_key=5699021>
> Specimens:
>
> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fresearcharchive.calacademy.org%2Fimage_db%2Fbotany%2Fcas0298684.jpg
>
> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhm.ac.uk%2Fservices%2Fmedia-store%2Fasset%2F907c08715baa6d43146e0e8e3daf2ab8f6690dc6%2Fcontents%2Fpreview
>
> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhm.ac.uk%2Fservices%2Fmedia-store%2Fasset%2Fa503b5e1203d0e997989497f94d3e92db6de00e9%2Fcontents%2Fpreview
>
>
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 15:04, Ashutosh Sharma <
> ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Respected Saroj ji,
>>
>> Actually pedicel is not much long in M.cyanea please see illustration at
>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121562&flora_id=2
>>
>> What we see in foi is likely a terminal capitula so it looks like having
>> quite longer pedicel...
>> I feel it should be Melanoseris cyanea.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Ashutosh Sharma
>>
>> On Wed 23 Sep, 2020, 2:39 PM Saroj Kasaju, <kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Pedicle is very long in M. cyana.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 2:53 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks different !
>>>> FoI
>>>> <https://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FArrowleaf%2520Blue-Sow-Thistle.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FArrowleaf%2520Blue-Sow-Thistle.html&tbnid=L151sn09h72hbM&vet=12ahUKEwi7stTi9v7rAhWxErcAHZgbAgsQMygAegUIARCNAQ..i&docid=Fpaaqd71_OWvLM&w=600&h=450&q=Melanoseris%20cyanea&hl=en&client=safari&ved=2ahUKEwi7stTi9v7rAhWxErcAHZgbAgsQMygAegUIARCNAQ>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 2:34 PM Ashutosh Sharma <
>>>> ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Melanoseris cyanea
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Ashutosh Sharma
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed 23 Sep, 2020, 11:01 AM J.M. Garg, <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Closer to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/melanoseris
>>>>>> DSRawat Pantnagar
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did not find any match in the EFN.
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can further check comparative images at
>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae
>>>>>>  -
>>>>>> from me
>>>>>> Melanoseris bracteata (Hook.f. & Thomson ex C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian ???
>>>>>> Syn : Lactuca bracteata Hook.f. & Thomson ex C.B.Clarke
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, maybe though I am not sure.
>>>>>> Pl. see GBIF
>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3140280>.
>>>>>> What is worrying me is the long inflorescence.
>>>>>> Pl. see the longest I could find in GBIF is this specimen
>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhm.ac.uk%2Fservices%2Fmedia-store%2Fasset%2F4b1142c2e751af58c3f5ea0b9638f4b0c05c108b%2Fcontents%2Fpreview>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I find there are wide variations in Lactuca
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/lactuca>/
>>>>>> Melanoseris
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/melanoseris>
>>>>>> It also does not come close with any other species mentioned in Checklist
>>>>>> of Nepal
>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=117438>
>>>>>> .  --
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No it might not be  *Melanoseris bracteata* as of plant morphology.
>>>>>> Could not find images of some common species in nepal..
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Bijay
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 20:02
>>>>>> Subject: SK1657 19 Dec 2018
>>>>>> To: efloraindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <
>>>>>> jmga...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Members,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Location : Chandragiri Hills, Kathmandu, Nepal
>>>>>> Elevation : 8200 ft.
>>>>>> Date : 11 December 2018
>>>>>> Habit : Wild
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which Asteraceae ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>

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