Looks different from images at Saussurea bracteata <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/saussurea/saussurea-bracteata>
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 15:51, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Saussurea bracteata Decne. ?? > Thank you > Saroj Kasaju > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> > Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 at 20:48 > Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:253131] Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra::Saussurea > inversa NSJ-OCT 16/11 > To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> > Cc: D.S Rawat <drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com>, < > chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>, Narendra Joshi <narend...@gmail.com> > > > Forwarding again for Id assistance please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > > Interesting Saussurea species. A trans-Himalayan one as I suppose. > S. inversa is not known in Uttarakhand. > DSRawat Pantnagar > > This is a new 'species' for me but I am doubtful it is *S.inversa* on the > basis of the image taken in Paddar Valley named as such on the FOI site > see: > http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Inverse%20Snow%20Lotus.html > which is presumably where the provisional name came from matching with? > Not recorded from Ladakh or known in Stewart's day (assuming it is found in > W.Himalaya). Not in 'Enumeration of Flowering Plants of Nepal'. Many > 'new' species have been described in the Himalaya in recent decades - a > complicated genus (like so many). > > As for existing species, there is much confusion between *S.simpsoniana* > and *S.gossypiphora* in the W.Himalaya. > > As two of our members named the image on the FOI site they are in a much > better position to comment further, especially as I do not recognise these > images or the one from the Paddar Valley but the images do not come close > to me. > > Just noticed that an article on Research Gate, see: > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272383552_The_genus_Saussurea_Compositae_Cardueae_in_China_Taxonomic_and_nomenclatural_notes > states that *S.sorocephala* var. glabrata is raised to specific rank as > *S.inversa*. Stewart had *S.sorocephala* Schrenk as a synonym of > *S.gnaphalodes* (which is common in Laadkh); he thought this variety > seemed to be the same as *S.hypsipeta* Diels (yet does not list this > species in his Catalogue) and probably should be considered only to be a > glabrate form. *Saussurea hypsipeta* is listed by Dickore & Klimes from > Ladakh - there is an excellent image of it by our member Miroslav: > http://www.butbn.cas.cz/ladakh/fotky/flora/subnival_eng.html. > > Clearly, Miroslav may be able to comment in a more informed way than me. > --- from Chris Chadwell ji. > > To me it appears close to *Saussurea glacialis* Herder > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/saussurea/saussurea-glacialis> > as > per image herein. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Narendra Joshi <narend...@gmail.com> > Date: 6 October 2016 at 22:48 > Subject: [efloraofindia:253131] Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra::Saussurea > inversa NSJ-OCT 16/11 > To: indiantreepix <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> > > > Dear All, > > Saussurea inversa for validation. Photo taken just after crossing Lipulekh > pass (China border) on Aug 27, 2016. 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