Thanks Gurcharan ji!

Vijayasankar


On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:23 AM Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Vijayasankar for confirming that this is Assam lemon for which name
> C. longilimon has been published by Tanaka. We already have a page on C.
> longilimon, and it should go there.
>
>
>
>
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Mob: 9810359089
> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 1:45 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you Vijayashankar Ji !
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 1:42 PM Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree that this is Assam lemon. But the name *Citrus longilimon*
>>> Tanaka, although first published in 1959 and appears in several webpages,
>>> is not yet recognized by the major taxonomic databases, including TPL,
>>> POWO, GBIF etc. Also, a recent paper (cited below) discusses the
>>> morphological diversity of *C. medica* in NE India and includes
>>> specimens of similar fruit shape from the same region. So, I think we can
>>> treat this plant as *C. medica* L. for now along with *C. longilimon *Tanaka
>>> as a probable synonym, until it is further resolved.
>>>
>>> Barbhuiya AR, Khan ML, Dayanandan S. Genetic structure and diversity of
>>> natural and domesticated populations of Citrus medica L. in the Eastern
>>> Himalayan region of Northeast India. Ecology and evolution. 2016
>>> Jun;6(12):3898-911.
>>> https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/ece3.2174
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Vijayasankar
>>> ---------------------------------------
>>> Vijayasankar Raman, Ph.D.
>>> Sr. Research Scientist
>>> University of Mississippi, USA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:29 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>>>
>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>
>>>> “Thanks once again Gurcharan ji, for the id.
>>>> *But similar plants have been identified as Citrus medica in the
>>>> following sites:*
>>>> http://www.vegtalk.org/fruits/citron-citrus-medica-t1635.html Citrus medica
>>>> - 'Corsican Citron'
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citron as Citron varieties
>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Citron.html Dinesh ji's
>>>> pictures
>>>> So how to confirm this? No picture for C. longilimon available in the
>>>> net. The protologue (in Bull.Univ. Osaka Perfect....1959) in also not
>>>> traceable.
>>>> With regards
>>>> R. Vijayasankar”
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *“I am not able to distinguish it from Citrus medica*, which has fruit 
>>>> which
>>>> is variable in shape
>>>>
>>>>  http://www.healthkerala.gov.in/ayurveda/herb_images/4.jpg
>>>>
>>>> http://faculty.ksu.edu.sa/10439/Pictures%20Library/Forms/DispForm.aspx?ID=143
>>>>  http://www.flowersinisrael.com/Citrusmedica_page.htm
>>>>
>>>>  - Tabish”
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> “Vijayasankar ji and Tabish ji
>>>> Assam lemon, characterised by its long fruits (distinctinctly longer
>>>> than broad) have been named as C. limon at many websites, and as C. medica
>>>> in many websites. It should not look strange firstly because taxonomy
>>>> of Citrus is very confusing, secondly many authors consider C. limon
>>>> as var. or subsp. of C. medica, and as such those not going below
>>>> species level would simply call it C. medica. *Plus
>>>> C. longilimon (character is in the name itself) is a comparatively recently
>>>> established species, not known to me. NMPMD database is generally well
>>>> researched, and it is from here as well photographs of Assam lemon at
>>>> various websites that C. longilimon appears to be the most logical name.
>>>> Plus GRIN also recognises it as distinct species.*
>>>> C. limon is generally differentiated from C. medica by much thinner and
>>>> smoother rind. Let us try to find out other differentiating features (in
>>>> addition to longer fruit) of C. longilimon to arrive at final
>>>> conclusion.
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh”
>>>>
>>>> "*Citrus medica *L. !
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> Saroj Kasaju"
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 at 17:33
>>>> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:370461] Flora of Manipur: Citrus longilimon
>>>> To: indiatreepix <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> orwarding again for ID
>>>> Distributed as  Citrus longilimon ?
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rutaceae/citrus/citrus-longilimon-1>
>>>>
>>>> Group discussion at
>>>>   [efloraofindia:34312] Flora of Manipur: Citrus longilimon
>>>> (google.com) <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/z9wFVm6MmCs>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Sunday, May 9, 2010 at 2:23:27 AM UTC+5:30
>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:34312] Flora of Manipur: Citrus longilimon
>>>> To: indiatreepix <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Citrus longilimon* (Rutaceae). Planted in house gardens. Credit for
>>>> the id goes to Gurcharan ji & Dinesh ji (I originally identified this as C.
>>>> limon, now i am more convinced!).
>>>>
>>>> With regards
>>>>
>>>> R. Vijayasankar
>>>>
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