Thanks, Surajit ji. Hi, Karuna ji, May I request you to pl. post high resolution images to properly check different characters.
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 21:45, surajit koley <surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: > I admit, Garg Sir, I am very confused with this species of *Jasmium*. > First, I made a grave mistake by suggesting *J. laurifolium*, overlooking > the leaf character. Then I was confused again to decide if the > inflorescence should be treated as an axillary or a terminal one! > > Later, you suggested *J. listeri* and referred to two > herbarium collections at GBIF. But, the protologue of *J. listeri* tells > me - > > 1. leaf base cuneate (* doesn't match with pic no. "* > 6._Unknown_sp._-_Leaf_-IMG_1107") > 2. cymes rather lax (*doesn't match with pic no.* "5, 7 & 8") > 3. corolla white, lobes six (again *doesn't match with pic no.* "7 & > 8") > > So, I am hesitant to accept. > > There is a paper on *Jasminum* from Arunachal Pradesh - > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318362029_Jasminum_pentaneurum_Hand-Mazz_Oleaceae_An_Addition_to_Indian_Flora_from_Arunachal_Pradesh_North_East_India > > The KEY in the above paper goes thus :- > > > 1. *1a Leaves all simple -> 2 -> 2a Leaves with primary veins > pinnately arranged -> 3 -> 3a Inflorescence open, lax, 1-5 flowered -> 4* > (*J. listeri is placed under it)* > 2. * 1a Leaves all simple -> 2 -> 2a Leaves with primary veins > pinnately arranged -> 3 -> 3b Inflorescence dense, many flowered -> 8 > thereafter 8a & 8b to 9 to 9b* (here lies *J. elongatum*) ! > > Now, you decide, and I will accept it. > > Thank you. > Best regards, > Surajit Koley > > > On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 12:57, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks, Surajit ji. >> I found the posted plant to be different from *Jasminum elongatum *as >> per keys and as per GBIF specimens from India >> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&taxon_key=3172264>- >> specimen 1 >> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Frepo.rbge.org.uk%2Fimage_server.php%3Fkind%3D1500%26path_base64%3DL2hlcmJhcml1bV9zcGVjaW1lbl9zY2Fucy9FMDAvMjg0Lzg0NC8zNjgyOC5qcGc%3D> >> and specimen 2 >> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Foxalis.br.fgov.be%2Fimages%2FBR0%2F000%2F005%2F290%2F567%2FBR0000005290567.jpg> >> >> On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 at 21:40, surajit koley < >> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Also check the probability of *Jasminum elongatum* - >>> >>> 1. http://plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=566251 >>> 2. >>> >>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:609469-1 >>> >>> *The point I miss in these attached pictures is absence of leafy bracts >>> subtending the capitate cymes. * >>> However, a blog is there covering certain identifications - >>> https://plantsnamebubai.home.blog/ >>> >>> Thank you. >>> Best regards, >>> Surajit Koley >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 19:09, surajit koley < >>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> *Yes, Garg Sir, I was totally wrong.* >>>> I am not sure as well, that if it can be *J. listeri* ..... here is >>>> the protologue - >>>> https://archive.org/details/recordsofbotanic11893bota/page/349/mode/1up?view=theater >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> Best regards, >>>> Surajit Koley >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 17:26, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This may be Jasminum listeri as per keys and species available in >>>>> Mizoram in MS Nov, 2020/05 Jaminum sp. for Id >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/EU9gTIzmHsI> and as per >>>>> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3683543>- specimen >>>>> 1 >>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Frepo.rbge.org.uk%2Fimage_server.php%3Fkind%3D1500%26path_base64%3DL2hlcmJhcml1bV9zcGVjaW1lbl9zY2Fucy9FMDAvNzU1LzIxMS85MDQxMjMuanBn>, >>>>> 2 >>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Frepo.rbge.org.uk%2Fimage_server.php%3Fkind%3D1500%26path_base64%3DL2hlcmJhcml1bV9zcGVjaW1lbl9zY2Fucy9FMDAvNzU1LzIxMi85MDQxOTIuanBn> >>>>> and >>>>> POWO >>>>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:609598-1> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 at 19:03, surajit koley < >>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Garg Sir, >>>>>> It's quite possible that I am altogether wrong. >>>>>> But.... >>>>>> >>>>>> - don't you think that before making any suggestion I may already >>>>>> have visited the efI's page? >>>>>> - Have you noticed that all uploads in your referred efI page >>>>>> come from cultivated individuals? >>>>>> - Don't you think that wild one may vary a little, or even to >>>>>> some extent? >>>>>> >>>>>> *Nothing said above ever implies that this species is J. laurifolium.* >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 at 15:54, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji, >>>>>>> Looks different from images at *Jasminum laurifolium* var. >>>>>>> *laurifolium* >>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/m---z/o/oleaceae/jasminum/jasminum-laurifolium> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 20:04, surajit koley < >>>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Assuming leaves are opposite, I would suggest *Jasminum >>>>>>>> laurifolium* Roxb. ex Hornem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 13:18, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Forwarding for ID >>>>>>>>> Distributed as Jasminum sp.- Kamrup district, Assam >>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/o/oleaceae/jasminum/jasminum-species/kamrup-district> >>>>>>>>> Group discussion at >>>>>>>>> ID pls : Unknown shrub from Kamrup district, Assam (google.com) >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/oVMqLDVBrZk> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>> From: kd_...@rediffmail.com <kd_...@rediffmail.com> >>>>>>>>> Date: Monday, December 31, 2012 at 7:43:41 AM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>> Subject: ID pls : Unknown shrub from Kamrup district, Assam >>>>>>>>> To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Cc: kd_...@rediffmail.com <kd_...@rediffmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>>>>> Attached images are unknown shrubs. One of the interesting feature >>>>>>>>> of this sp. I found is that some branches of this plant are >>>>>>>>> straggling(IMG_1124 & IMG_1125) and some are twiner(IMG_1126, >>>>>>>>> IMG_1127), >>>>>>>>> both bearing flowers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Date :21.12.2012 >>>>>>>>> Location: Kamrup district >>>>>>>>> Family : Unknown >>>>>>>>> Genus & species : Unknown >>>>>>>>> Habitat: Grows wild on roky slopes. >>>>>>>>> Habit : Shrubs >>>>>>>>> Flower : Large, white with orange coloured corolla tube >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>> Karuna Kanta Das >>>>>>>>> Guwahati 781012 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <http://sigads.rediff.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.rediffmail.com/signatureline.htm@Middle?> >>>>>>>>> Catch India as it happens with the *Rediff News App*. 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