I have this one in my mind and *I will inform when I would be ready to give up!* Meanwhile another guess https://www.kew.org/science/tropamerica/neotropikey/families/Symplocaceae.htm (please scroll down to bottom to see the last picture). But the problem is *fruits are different* in *Symplocos*, at best I could do is - https://www.morphosource.org/concern/biological_specimens/000S24715?locale=en
Thank you With regards surajit koley On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 at 12:55, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Forwarding again for Id assistance please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > > Might be Burseraceae- from Paradesi ji > > Thanks a lot Anjaneyulu ji. I was thinking it could be a *Commiphora* > species (Burseraceae) . Meanwhile you suggested the family. I will try > to work on it.- from Mahadeswara ji > > Sending h/w two more photos received. - from Mahadeswara ji > Thanks, Paradesi ji and Mahadeswara ji. > On checking the family in efloraofindia, I could track it upto *Commiphora > wightii* (Arn.) Bhandari > <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/b/burseraceae/commiphora/commiphora-wightii> > as > per images and details herein and as per > > https://plantslive.in/product/buy-commiphora-berryi-usuvaindian-balm-of-gilead-plant-online-india/ > http://bonsaiclubofahmedabad.com/sales_detail.php?sales_id=115 > > https://www.desertcart.in/products/72901437-guggul-myrrh-tree-commiphora-wightii-exotic-caudex-mukul-bonsai-seed-5-seeds > https://laidbackgardener.blog/2017/12/22/the-two-plants-of-the-magi/ > > https://www.flipkart.com/chamunda-greens-commiphora-wightii/p/itm33117aadfa00a > ICAR > <https://iinrg.icar.gov.in/library/majorgumresin/mobile/index.html#p=101> > > But flowers look different as per > Images at *Commiphora wightii* (Arn.) Bhandari > <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/b/burseraceae/commiphora/commiphora-wightii> > http://gardentia.sitewalla.com/2013/09/16/guggul/ > Observations on Flowering and Fruiting in Commiphora wightii (Arnott) > Bhandari > <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263090118_Observations_on_Flowering_and_Fruiting_in_Commiphora_wightii_Arnott_Bhandari> > > Could not find a match with other species listed in Flora of Peninsular > India <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/search.php> (namely > Commiphora > berryi > <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2208&cat=7> > , Commiphora caudata var. caudata > <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2209&cat=7> > , Commiphora caudata var. pubescens > <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2210&cat=7> > , Commiphora gileadensis > <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2211&cat=7> > , Commiphora myrrha > <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2212&cat=7> > , Commiphora stocksiana > <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2213&cat=7>, > Commiphora > wightii)- from me > I was following this thread. I want to know a thing or two about bonsai :- > > 1. does their stunted growth deform them? > 2. do leaves retain their characters? > 3. flowers and fruits should remain as in normal species, since they > are sexual organs - isn't it? > > Flowers in this species seem to have staminal tube - so why not check for > meliaceae member, for example - > https://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_SP512&res=640 ? > > Thank you > With regards > > surajit koley > Thanks for taking interest in this thread to unravel its identity > .Regarding your queries, > 1. No. the stunted growth does not deform the plant but it manifest in > miniature forms. > 2. Sure. > 3. Yes they remain in normal form. > Meanwhile I am asking the sender of these photographs to allow the plant > to grow on its own without clipping the plant parts. Let us see what > happens. > Regards, > > Dr.Mahadeswara Swamy > However, *your answers no. 1 & 2 imply - this species wouldn't be a > Meliaceae member*, because they mostly have pinnate leaves with entire > margins of leaflets. > *Please do not waste your time on Meliaceae*. > Thank you > With regards > > surajit koley > I have another suggestion, if I may - please think of it before any search > or allotting your time to it - > What about the probability of a rutaceae member? (since I think some of > those flowers also look similar, and they are used for bonsai, and the > flower colour in your species is actually greenish-white, not yellow.! And > also take care of those green-turning-orange fruit in your pic > no MG-20210518-WA0018). > > I still cannot get rid of meliaceae though! Just check some fruit pics - > > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munronia > - > http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:26792-1 > > The problem area is crenate leaf (or leaflets?) > > Thank you > With regards > > surajit koley > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: M Swamy <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 at 17:42 > Subject: [efloraofindia:386271] Swamy/New series/ID/12 - ID of the Plant, > Chennai. > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > > Dear friends, > Kindly Id the plant photographs received from a friend in Chennai. > Photographed yesterday. 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