This is not the same species as in the other thread, Sawmliana ji posted -
https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Je5w66tI7lM/m/aZnjMoziAgAJ..
Here flower is larger, peduncle is longer, flower is funnel shaped, unlike
rather campanulate shape of *Merremia*.

And to my disappointment there is no fruit picture in the submitted set to
prove my suggestion!

Another disappointment is that perhaps Sawmliana ji is in no position to
upload original plates of this species.

Moreover, *Camonea kingii* (Prain) A.R.Simões & Staples is not listed in
Flora of Mizoram!

Should I accept *Operculina turpethum* then?
( I will skip the "winged stem" part! )

NO

   1. some of the peduncles are longer than 3 cm here
   2. anthers are different from *Operculina turpethum* (check the paper I
   mentioned in the other thread)

If Sawmliana ji could show me a pair of tiny auricles at the petiole
attachment site of the stem!!!






On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 at 19:12, radha veach <radhave...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The stems here look terete and smooth. Operculina has angled or winged
> stems.
> Regards
> Radha
>
> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 11:39:27 PM UTC-6 JM Garg wrote:
>
>> Hi, Sawmliana ji,
>> May I request you to pl. post high resolution images to further check the
>> details.
>>
>> --
>> With regards,
>> J. M. Garg
>>
>> On Thu, 15 Jul, 2021, 10:43 am surajit koley, <surajitno...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, Mr. Garg,
>>>
>>> If this species is same as in
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Je5w66tI7lM/m/aZnjMoziAgAJ,
>>> I think,it is never *Operculina turpethum* (L.) Silva Manso.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Surajit Koley
>>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 13:30, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji.
>>>> As per description of *Camonea kingii *as per Convolvulaceae Unlimited
>>>> <http://convolvulaceae.myspecies.info/taxonomy/term/7357/descriptions>
>>>> :
>>>> Inflorescence lax, a cymose panicle, usually 5–12-flowered ....
>>>>
>>>> It does not appear so in the posted images.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 13:29, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji.
>>>>> As per description of *Camonea kingii *as per Convolvulaceae
>>>>> Unlimited:
>>>>> Inflorescence lax, a cymose panicle, usually 5–12-flowered ....
>>>>>
>>>>> It does not appear so in the posted images.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 21:15, surajitno...@gmail.com <
>>>>> surajitno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, more proably it is *Merremia umbellata* subsp. *macra*
>>>>>> (C.B.Clarke) Parmar = *Camonea kingii* (Prain) A.R.Simões & Staples,
>>>>>> than *Operculina turpethum*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, 6 July 2021 at 17:02:27 UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Sawmliana ji.
>>>>>>> It appears more closer to images at *Operculina turpethum*
>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/17/operculina-turpethum/> rather than
>>>>>>> those of *Camonea umbellata* as per POWO
>>>>>>> <http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77163301-1>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 at 21:42, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please see that already ID !
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>> From: M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 2:40 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:389549] MS,June,2021/13 Climber for id
>>>>>>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Comonea umbellata ???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Jun, 2021, 10:28 am Saroj Kasaju, <kasaj...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you Paradesi Ji !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 7:28 AM Paradesi Anjaneyulu <
>>>>>>>>> paradesia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes Saroj ji,
>>>>>>>>>> With regards.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 at 22:04, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Operculina turpethum *(L.) Silva Manso ??
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:15 PM M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Location : Lengpui, Mizoram
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date : 18-03-2015
>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Climber
>>>>>>>>>>>> Habitat : Wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> M.Sawmliana
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