These two Phlogacanthus species from Manipur had confused me for a long time. Even Dr. John Wood had not been able to help in this matter. Now in the light of the following paper (by M. Sawmliana et al.): https://mapress.com/pt/article/view/phytotaxa.573.2.8 the Phlogacanthus-A attached by me is *Phlogacanthus jenkinsii. *The Phlogacanthus-B attached by me (the one with reddish flowers) is the real Phlogacanthus thyrsiformis. This has been confirmed by one of the authors of this paper, Dr. Sudhansu Sekhar Dash. Cheers! Tabish
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: JM Garg <Unknown> Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 6:28:02 PM UTC+5:30 Subject: Fwd: Phlogacanthus of NE India To: efloraofindia <Unknown> Cc: Tabish <Unknown> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tabish <[email protected]> Date: 6 July 2016 at 17:07 Subject: Phlogacanthus of NE India To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> Cc: Flowers of India <[email protected]> Dear Garg ji, Thanks for reminding about this issue once again. I have been looking at it, and the issue appears to be complex to me. Firstly, I agree that Polunin & Stainton wrongly identified (probably) Phlogacanthus thyrsiflorus, as P. pubinervius. Secondly, there seem to be two different plants in Manipur, locally considered to be different. I am atatching pictures of them as Phlogacanthus-A and Phlogacanthus-B. These two look different to me because 1. the inside of the flower in Phlogacanthus-B appears to be much more hairy, compared to Phlogacanthus-A. 2. The flower shapes look different to me, although can't be too sure about that 3. See where the sepals are in the fully open flowers. Look at the bottom flowers in Phlogacanthus-B-2 for example, in comparison to Phlogcanthus-A-1 and A-3. Description of P. thyrsiflorus in Flora of Brit. India says that bracts are about as long as sepals, not longer. In the description of P. thyrsiformis in some papers, the bracts are mentioned to be much longer than sepals. Makes me wonder if these two are different plants. To me, my Phlogacanthus-A appears to agree with the herbarium image of Phlogacanthus thyrsiflorus at Kew: http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000950020 but not my Phlogacanthus-B. To compound the confusion, some papers seems to consider P. thyrsiformis and P. thyrsiflorus as two different plant. I attach one such paper, where P. thyrsiformis is described as the plant with brick-red flowers, which agrees with my Phlogacanthus-B. I will be happy to have this issue resolved. This discussion which already happened at efloraofindia doesn't throw any light on this. Cheers! Tabish ------------------------------------------- <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net The waterhole of flower lovers On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:10 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Tabish ji, > Correct name of Phlogacanthus thyrsiflorus at FOI > <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Nongmangkha.html> should be > Phlogacanthus thyrsiformis. Pl. see detailed discussions at Phlogacanthus > thyrsiformis > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/phlogacanthus/phlogacanthus-thyrsiflorus-1> > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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