Please note that for more than 100 years the Kashmir Bredmushk was known as S. caprea L. It was only Stewart in 1972 who ponted out that plant known as S. caprea by Flora of British India as also Forest Flora of Punjab 1956 was actually S. aegyptiaca L. Flora of Pakistan which usually lists all plants from Kashmir does not list S. caprea. This should help to confirm whether or not both occur in Kahmir. S. aegyptiaca (S. medemii) — Egyptian willow A willow originating from West Asia and widely cultivated. (Plants from Egypt, after which the species was named, represent cultivated material.) Due to tree habit and broad hairy leaves, S. aegyptiaca resembles the European goat willow S. caprea; however, unlike S. caprea, it is easily propagated from cuttings and thus has been favored for cultivation (Skvortsov 1999: 178). According to Rehder (1954), it has been in cultivation in the United States since 1888 (under the name S. medemii). As its naturalization is not yet positively demonstrated, for the time being we prefer to treat any findings as waifs. All examined herbarium samples that we could confidently identify as S. aegyptiaca as well as living plants found in Berkshire County might represent planted willows. Plants found in natural settings, deviating from S. atrocinerea or S. cinerea by somewhat bluish foliage, more densely pubescent leaves, and buds without recurved beak may belong to this species. Another help in ID, wood under the bark is striated in S. aegyptiaca, smooth in S. caprea.
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 2:07:14 PM UTC+5:30 taffa...@gmail.com wrote: > I do not know much taxonomy but it is written in Wikipedia that unlike all > other willows pure *S.caprea* can not be grown from cuttings. According > to Wikipedia : > *" **Unlike almost all other willows, pure specimens do not take root > readily from cuttings; if a willow resembling the species does root easily, > it is probably a hybrid with another species of willow."* Since *Bred > Mushk * in Kashmir is propagated from cuttings ( I did it once myself) it > must either be another species or a hybrid. > Regards > Taffazull > > On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:29:17 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kasaju wrote: > >> Yes, Shakir. >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:15 PM Shakir Ahmad <saadiks...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Salix caprea is Introduced species of kashmir.... And yes it has >>> distribution In kashmir... >>> I think salix caprea is different from S.aegyptiaca >>> >>> On Thu, 9 Mar, 2023, 8:48 pm Saroj Kasaju, <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiMxOqFkM_9AhVC1zgGHZ1iD_YQFnoECAkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fefloraofindia.com%2F2021%2F05%2F19%2Fsalix-caprea%2F&usg=AOvVaw2Hvj0Kohejelrih0fNr2_t >>>> >>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjizNLVkM_9AhXdyzgGHUlfAYQ4ChAWegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fiiim.res.in%2Fherbarium%2Fsalicaceae%2Fsalix_caprea.htm&usg=AOvVaw1n87oMpkSD8VJkD37krZvW >>>> https://www.gbif.org/species/5372952 >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 5:57 PM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, also needs to be corrected in FOI. >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 6 Mar, 2023, 12:37 Saroj Kasaju, <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiYlZft3cb9AhXIRWwGHQZiBhoQFnoECBYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FGoat%2520Willow.html&usg=AOvVaw3lMYSVqEysshX712--r4g- >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiYlZft3cb9AhXIRWwGHQZiBhoQFnoECBYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FGoat%2520Willow.html&usg=AOvVaw3lMYSVqEysshX712--r4g- >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiYlZft3cb9AhXIRWwGHQZiBhoQFnoECFwQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F209498115_A_short_chemical_review_on_Salix_Caprea_commonly_Known_as_Goat_willow&usg=AOvVaw2LBrSOLTdOGdEJn_H_hVFw >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 11:49 AM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Singh ji >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 6 Mar, 2023, 01:32 Gurcharan Singh, <sing...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes Garg ji, we don't have S. caprea in Kashmir. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 4:27:14 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, Singh ji, >>>>>>>>> You mean to say the images at the following are also of >>>>>>>>> *S.aegyptiaca*: >>>>>>>>> Salix caprea >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/xfNLCI0QynA> (by >>>>>>>>> Shakir ji) >>>>>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Goat%20Willow.html >>>>>>>>> (by Shakir ji) >>>>>>>>> Salix caprea AT/JUNE2021/1 >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/VFLfhkXZC-M> (by >>>>>>>>> Anil ji) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 16:27 >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:442736] Re: Salix caprea >>>>>>>>> To: <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> Cc: GurcharanSingh <sing...@gmail.com>, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>> kasaj...@gmail.com>, Anil Thakur <aniltha...@gmail.com>, Tabish < >>>>>>>>> tab...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, Singh ji, >>>>>>>>> You mean to say the images at the following are also of >>>>>>>>> *S.aegyptiaca*: >>>>>>>>> Salix caprea >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/xfNLCI0QynA> (by >>>>>>>>> Shakir ji) >>>>>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Goat%20Willow.html >>>>>>>>> (by Shakir ji) >>>>>>>>> Salix caprea AT/JUNE2021/1 >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/VFLfhkXZC-M> (by >>>>>>>>> Anil ji) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 at 00:46, Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To set nomenclature right, the Salix caprea of Indian authors >>>>>>>>>> incl FBI is correctly *Salix aegyptiaca* Linnaeus >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 11:44:06 PM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan >>>>>>>>>> Singh wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes Salix caprea, Bred Mushak. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 4:32:11 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>>>> taffa...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nice photos >>>>>>>>>>>> In Kashmir the sweet scented flowers of Bred Mushak signify the >>>>>>>>>>>> end of winter. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for mentioning their botanical name. >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 4:20:29 PM UTC+5:30 Shakir >>>>>>>>>>>> Ahmad wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Location:kulgam >>>>>>>>>>>>> Date of collection:26-02-2023 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kashmiri name :Braed mushk >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/d76830a7-f377-4a5d-a6e0-0693b3e8c4d9n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/d76830a7-f377-4a5d-a6e0-0693b3e8c4d9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b50c1f9c-4b59-49bb-849a-0112ecfb6c3an%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b50c1f9c-4b59-49bb-849a-0112ecfb6c3an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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