Thank you Tapas Da !

Saroj Kasaju


On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 4:45 PM Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Here is the key to the species of *Machilus *in the Indo-Burmese region.
> Please help yourself. I still think that this plant may prove to be a
> distinct species, close to *M. duthiei.*
>
> With regards,
> Tapas
>
> Key to the species
>
> 1a.
>
> Shoots subtended by a ring of bud scale scars; leaves usually crowded
> towards tips of branchlets ……………………………………………………………………………….. 2
>
>  b.
>
> Shoots not subtended by a ring of bud scale scars; leaves usually not
> crowded towards tips of branchlets but evenly spaced
> ………….............................................................. 11
>
> 2a.
>
> Panicle branches and perianth segments glabrous or sparsely puberulous
> ……………  3
>
>   b.
>
> Panicle branchlets and perianth segments tomentose to villous or densely
> pubescent … 5
>
> 3a.
>
> Lateral nerves of leaves 14–20 pairs; pedicels 5–10 mm long; fruits
> globose, 2.5–3 cm in diameter ………………………………………………………………… *2. M. clarkeana*
>
>  b.
>
> Lateral nerves of leaves 8–15 pairs; pedicels 3–5 mm long; fruits
> ellipsoid to oblong-ellipsoid, 0.7–1.6 × 0.5–1 cm …………………………………………………. 4
>
> 4a.
>
> Tertiary nerves and minor nervules of leaves inconspicuous on both
> surfaces; panicles 3–5 cm long; fruits *ca *7 × 5 mm ………………………………………… *10.
> M. kingii*
>
>  b.
>
> Tertiary nerves of leaves prominent above, faint to prominent beneath;
> minor nervules finely reticulate-pitted and prominent on the upper surface,
> inconspicuous to somewhat prominent beneath; fruits 12–16 × 8–10 mm
> ……………………..  *15. M. odoratissima*
>
> 5a.
>
> Leaves mostly cuneate-obovate to oblanceolate; lateral nerves stout,
> strongly raised beneath; fruits 3.5–4.5 cm in diameter ……………………………………. *6.
> M. edulis*
>
>  b.
>
> Leaves mostly oblong-elliptic or narrowly so or sometimes obovate to
> oblanceolate (*M. gamblei*); lateral nerves slender, faint to prominent
> but not strongly raised beneath; fruits (unknown in *M. dubia*) up to 1.5
> (–2.5) cm in diameter ………………………………. 6
>
> 6a.
>
> Lateral nerves of leaves 14–25 pairs …………………………………………………..  7
>
>  b.
>
> Lateral nerves of leaves 7–12 pairs …………………………………………………….  8
>
> 7a.
>
> Lateral nerves of leaves 14–20 pairs; fruits 0.8–1.2 cm in diameter;
> fruiting pedicels 5–6 mm long ………………………………………………………………….   *5. M. duthiei*
>
>  b.
>
> Lateral nerves of leaves 18–25 pairs; fruits 2–2.5 cm in diameter;
> fruiting pedicels 8–12 mm long ………………………………………………………………    *20. M.
> sharmae*
>
> 8a.
>
> Mature leaves tomentellous beneath; minor nervules conspicuously and
> finely reticulate-areolate on the upper surface ……………………………  *22. M.
> tomentosa*
>
>  b.
>
> Mature leaves sparsely pubescent to glabrous beneath; minor nervules
> inconspicuous and obscure on the upper surface ………………………………………………………… 9
>
> 9a.
>
> Leaves 5–6 cm broad, apiculate at apex; panicles up to 16 cm long ………. *4.
> M. dubia*
>
>  b.
>
> Leaves 2–4 cm broad, apiculate to acuminate at apex; panicles 3–10 cm long
> …….  10
>
> 10a.
>
> Fruits 10–15 mm in diameter; fruiting pedicels 5–10 mm long; leaves often
> turning dark reddish brown on both surfaces on drying …………………………….  *11.
> M. kurzii*
>
>   b.
>
> Fruits 8–10 mm in diameter; fruiting pedicels 4–5 mm long; leaves turning
> pale brown or greenish-brown on both surfaces on drying …………………………  *8.
> M. gamblei*
>
> 11a.
>
> Panicle branchlets and perianth segments tomentose to villous or densely
> pubescent..  12
>
>    b.
>
> Panicle branches and perianth segments glabrous or sparsely puberulous
> …………..   15
>
> 12a.
>
> Leaves stiffly coriaceous; lateral nerves faint above; panicles 4–6 mm
> long ………………………………………………………………………….. *18. M. russellii*
>
>    b.
>
> Leaves thinly coriaceous; lateral nerves prominent above; panicles 7–28 cm
> long …. 13
>
> 13a.
>
> Leaves usually unequal and rounded to obtuse at base, rounded to obtuse at
> apex; fruits 1–1.6 (–2) cm in diameter ………............................  *14.1.
> M. macrantha *var. *macrantha*
>
>    b.
>
> Leaves equal and cuneate to acute at base, acute, apiculate to acuminate
> at apex; fruits 0.6–1 (–1.2) cm in diameter ………………………………………………………….. 14
>
> 14a.
>
> Leaves apiculate to acuminate at apex; lateral nerves 5–9 pairs; panicle
> branches tomentose to villous …………………………….. *14.2. M. macrantha *var.
> *glaucescens*
>
>    b.
>
> Leaves acute to apiculate at apex; lateral nerves 8–12 pairs; panicle
> branches sericeous ……………………………………………………………………………. *19. M. sericea*
>
> 15a.
>
> Leaves unequal and rounded to obtuse at base ………………………………………… 16
>
>    b.
>
> Leaves more or  less equal and cuneate to acute at base ……………………………… 17
>
> 16a.
>
> Leaves 2.5–5.5 cm broad, glossy above, curved downwards along margins,
> acute to apiculate at apex; panicles sparsely branched ………………………. *7. M.
> fruticosa*, *p.p.*
>
>    b.
>
> Leaves 5.5–10.5 cm broad, not glossy above, flat along margins, apiculate
> to acuminate at apex; panicles profusely branched ……………………………     *21. M.
> sikkimensis*
>
> 17a.
>
> Leaves predominantly obovate, obovate-oblong to obovate-elliptic …….. *12.
> M. listeri*
>
>    b.
>
> Leaves predominantly oblong-elliptic to lanceolate-oblong ……………………….   18
>
> 18a.
>
> Leaves 14–35 × 4–10 cm; minor nervules conspicuously foveolate-reticulate
> on the upper surface …………………………………………………………….  *17. M. robusta*
>
>    b.
>
> Leaves 6–17 × 2–5.5 cm; minor nervules inconspicuous to faint or if
> prominent then not foveolate-reticulate on the upper surface
> ………………………………………     19
>
> 19a.
>
> Leaves flat along margins …………………………………………………………….  20
>
>    b.
>
> Leaves curved downwards along margins ……………………………………………. 22
>
> 20a.
>
> Fruiting tepals reflexed …………………………………….................  *13.* *M.
> lohitensis*
>
>    b.
>
> Fruiting tepals clasping the base of fruits, reflexed at apex only
> ……………………. 21
>
>  21a.
>
> Trees, 10–30 m high; leaves thinly to thickly coriaceous, glabrous on the
> undersurface ……………….. …………………………………………………………. *3.* *M. declinata*
>
>    b.
>
> Trees, 4–5 m high; leaves chartaceous, sparsely appressed puberulous on
> the undersurface ……………………………………………………………… *9. M. hedgei*
>
> 22a.
>
> Leaves apiculate to acuminate at apex; fruits ellipsoid, 1.5–2 × 1–1.3 cm
> ………………………………………………………………………  *16. M. parviflora*
>
>   b.
>
> Leaves obtuse, acute to apiculate at apex; fruits globose, 0.8–1 cm in
> diameter …….. 23
>
> 23a.
>
> Leaves 2–2.5 cm broad, cuneate at base; lateral nerves 10–14 pairs … *1.
> M. bhaskarii*
>
>   b.
>
> Leaves 2.5–5.5 cm broad, obtuse to rounded or acute at base; lateral
> nerves 6–12 pairs ……………………………………………………………………  *7. M. fruticosa*, *p.p.*
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 3:51 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> OK Mr. Garg !
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 4:02 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Waiting for final words from Tapas ji.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 16:19, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Mr. Garg
>>>>
>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 4:23 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I feel it looks different from GBIF specimens of Machilus edulis, both
>>>>> in leaves and inflorescence arrangement.
>>>>> I still it is more closer to images at
>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2012/05/03/machilus-duthiei/
>>>>> (lateral nerves are also in the range of 14 or so)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 at 13:46, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I shall follow up Tapas Da!
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 1:56 PM Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This may be even a new species!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2023, 13:40 Tapas Chakrabarty, <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Machilus duthiei has 14-20 pairs of lateral nerves of leaves, which
>>>>>>>> it is not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2023, 00:35 Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Tapas Da,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I could not find its distribution in Nepal.
>>>>>>>>> Could it be *Machilus duthiei *King ex Hook.fil. ??
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/l/lauraceae/machilus/machilus-duthiei
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 9:10 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot, Tapas ji
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>>> J. M. Garg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Mar, 2023, 20:23 Tapas Chakrabarty, <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is *Machilus edulis *King ex Hook.f.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tapas
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 8:49 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Tapas ji
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 at 17:15, Tapas Chakrabarty <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023, 16:50 J.M. Garg, <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To me appears close to images at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2012/05/03/machilus-duthiei/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pl. check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 at 17:28, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May be from lauraceae.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 20:40
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: SK 3709 21 March 2023
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Ranibari, Kathmandu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 21 March 2023
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Altitude: 1370m.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habitat : Wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> With regards,
>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
>>>
>>

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