I'm concerned about the leaf images posted by Sam ji on 25 October 2023,
they do not match with any *Celtis* spp. What do you think, Garg ji?

Best wishes, Viplav

On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 12:01, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, everybody for the id.
> I will go for https://efloraofindia.com/2013/09/08/celtis-philippensis/,
> as per keys in FoPI
> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=9404&cat=7>
>
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 21:58, Sam Kuzhalanattu <samkuzhalana...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Viplav ji,
>> Thank you for your great response.  No need to confusing, it is a side
>> part of another leaf just behind of the first leaf, not third mid rib. I am
>> sure they are two leaves sticky because of sprouting.  Both male and female
>> flowers, fruits, all are matching except leaves.
>> With kind regards, Sam
>>
>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, 9:33 pm vipl...@gmail.com, <vipl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear Sam ji,
>>>
>>> I presume the leaves shared by you today belong to the same tree that
>>> bore flowers/fruits in your initial posts.
>>>
>>> In your earlier photo of the young pinkish leaf, I could notice an
>>> arching, basal vein alongside the midrib (marked in the attached images); I
>>> assumed this to be suggestive of *Celtis *that has leaves with 3 basal
>>> veins. There are no such basal veins in your photographs of the leaves
>>> posted today, which raises the doubt of this being any *Celtis* sp.
>>>
>>> Best wishes, Viplav
>>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 20:35, Sam Kuzhalanattu <
>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Viplav ji,
>>>> Thank you for your suggestions, but I am wondered of your observations.
>>>> I think the sprouting images in my 4th post (from 1st image, ie. enlarged
>>>> of 5th post image, it is clearly visible that the nerves are horizontally
>>>> arranged) and 2nd image of 12th post are matching.  Please check collage,
>>>> left is 1st image of 4th post (enlarged) and right is 2nd of 12th post, am
>>>> I right?  Sharing these images again for your reference.
>>>> With kind regards, Sam.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, 6:11 pm vipl...@gmail.com, <vipl...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> These don't look like the leaves of any *Celtis* spp. after all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Within *Cannabaceae *(ex-*Ulmaceae*), could it belong to the genus
>>>>> *Gironniera*? It doesn't seem to square with *Aphananthe**.*
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes, Viplav
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 14:34, Sam Kuzhalanattu <
>>>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sharing an image
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, 2:33 pm Sam Kuzhalanattu, <
>>>>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sharing an image
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, 2:32 pm Sam Kuzhalanattu, <
>>>>>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sharing more images
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, 2:30 pm Sam Kuzhalanattu, <
>>>>>>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sharing more images
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, 2:27 pm Sam Kuzhalanattu, <
>>>>>>>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>> Sharing more images.
>>>>>>>>>> Leaves are elongated (size upto:14x05cm) having more than 30
>>>>>>>>>> alternative nerves in one side and didn't find a match of leaves when
>>>>>>>>>> compared with other species' leaves.  With kind regards, Sam.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2023, 11:27 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <
>>>>>>>>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Mahadeswara ji,
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it is very close to *Celtis timorenisis, *thank you very
>>>>>>>>>>> much.
>>>>>>>>>>> With kind regards, Sam.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2023, 9:48 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <
>>>>>>>>>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it is very close to Celtis philippensis dear Viplav ji,
>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you very much for ID my tree, with kind regards, Sam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2023, 10:14 pm vipl...@gmail.com, <
>>>>>>>>>>>> vipl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unlikely to be *Celtis australis* as the young pinkish leaves
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in some of your pictures have entire margins. I think it is more 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in line
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with *Celtis philippensis.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes, Viplav
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 at 11:45, Sam Kuzhalanattu <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is identified as Celtis australis by Arsha Narayan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Arsha ji, with kind regards, Sam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2023, 1:00 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharing more images
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2023, 12:58 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharing an image
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2023, 12:55 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharing more images
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2023, 12:50 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharing more images
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2023, 12:46 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharing more images
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2023, 12:41 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> samkuzhalana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please ID wild tree, kind regards, Sam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: bloomed near Vannappuram Thodupuzha Idukki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerala INDIA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Altitude: 1500fsl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flower date: 31MAR2023, 10.45am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habitat: wild moisture rocky outcrop evergreen misty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sloppy canopied windy alpine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plant habit: small tree deciduous, erect, branches,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard cylindrical stem 04 inches base circumference, rough 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brownish bark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Height: 04 meters
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leaves: opposite elliptic acute simple glossy wavy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> margins, size upto: 08×4cm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flower: axillary spike male inflorescence, 05 petals,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diameter:05mm, greenish, fragrant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               axillary panicle female inflorescence, 05
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sepals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fruit: drupe green sub ovoid size: 08x4mm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seed:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Camera: CANON EOS1500D +FL10x
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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