Okk sir... Thank you🌹 On Thu, 11 Apr, 2024, 5:56 pm taffa...@gmail.com, <taffazu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Shakir Ji, > Had posted photos of flowers last year in my main post where you can see > them. > Will post them again when the plants are in full bloom. > I think will take a week or two. > Regards > > > On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 5:48:59 PM UTC+5:30 Shakir Ahmad wrote: > >> Kindly share photos in flowering >> >> On Thu, 11 Apr, 2024, 5:45 pm taffa...@gmail.com, <taffa...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> A photo of a patch of Lambs lettuce / Corn salad (*V.locusta*} self >>> sown from seeds fallen from the plants whose photo I had posted last year >>> photographed on 2nd April. At this stage they were ideal for use as a >>> salad. Today (11th April) they have started flowering. As in early spring >>> fields in Kashmir valley lie fallow it can be introduced as a profitable >>> crop in Kashmir. Unfortunately the seeds are not available in India. When I >>> found Lamb's Lettuce seeds advertised on Amazon I placed an order and >>> received lettuce seeds instead. Again I found Corn Salad advertised on >>> Flipkart but received Corn(Maize) seeds instead. I would request the >>> agriculture department of the UT to import the seeds and start its >>> cultivation here as the climate is ideal for its cultivation here and it >>> could be a valuable exotic plant. I tasted the leaves and found they have a >>> slight mucilaginous texture very different from that of ordinary salads >>> like lettuce >>> >>> On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 8:48:28 PM UTC+5:30 taffa...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> As* V.locusta *has been reported only from Srinagar first by >>>> Gurcharan ji and then by me in my post and as it is a popular salad in >>>> Europe I think that plants in Srinagar could have been introduced by >>>> British officers during British rule especially those with a taste for >>>> French cuisine where it is served under the name *Doucette *and* >>>> Raiponce.* >>>> Regards >>>> Taffazull >>>> >>>> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 12:39:18 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>>> >>>>> Surprising *Valerianella locusta *is not listed in the area as per >>>>> POWO >>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:859937-1> >>>>> and CoL >>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/59b0f85b5f385d6a4372a523c76aa621> >>>>> . >>>>> However, BSI >>>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/speciesList_PCL.action?resultType=genusWise&parent_Id=29083&parent_Name=valerianella> >>>>> lists this species along with 3 others. >>>>> Pl. see and analyse. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 at 15:18, taffa...@gmail.com <taffa...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Am attaching an1885 illustration of the plant which is in the public >>>>>> domain and which is very helpful. >>>>>> *Attribution:* Public Domain, >>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=8666 >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:15:49 PM UTC+5:30 taffa...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Some interesting facts from a Wikipedia article about this herb: >>>>>>> Its common European names are *lamb's lettuce, common cornsalad, *or >>>>>>> simply *cornsalad, mâche (/mɑːʃ/), fetticus, feldsalat, nut >>>>>>> lettuce, field salad and valerian salad. *In restaurants that >>>>>>> feature *French cuisine*, it may be called *doucette *or *raiponce*.In >>>>>>> some areas in Germany it is called *Rapunzel *and is the origin of >>>>>>> the long haired lady's name in the famous fairy tale. >>>>>>> Regarding its use as a vegetable it is written that: >>>>>>> "*It has been eaten in Britain for centuries and appears in John >>>>>>> Gerard's Herbal of 1597. It was grown commercially in London from the >>>>>>> late >>>>>>> 18th or early 19th century and appeared on markets as a winter >>>>>>> vegetable, >>>>>>> but it only became available in modern supermarkets there in the 1980s. >>>>>>> American president Thomas Jefferson cultivated mâche at his home.*" >>>>>>> Maybe the plants were introduced in Srinagar during British rule. >>>>>>> Its cultivation and promotion as an exotic vegetable can be an >>>>>>> attractive proposition for enterprising entrepreneurs in Kashmir. >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 11:28:32 AM UTC+5:30 Shakir Ahmad wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you Gurcharan ji!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jun, 2023, 10:47 am taffa...@gmail.com, < >>>>>>>> taffa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Gurcharan ji, >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the correct I.D. and the attached paper. >>>>>>>>> It is surely * Valerianella locusta *and not valerian. >>>>>>>>> Hope the photos add to efloraofindia collection as I did not find >>>>>>>>> any photos there. >>>>>>>>> The calyx lobes in ripe fruit(photo attached) have a single tooth. >>>>>>>>> With sincere regards >>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 8:22:29 AM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not Valeriana rather Valerianella. Check for V. locusta, I had >>>>>>>>>> recorded it as new record in India in 1974, paper attached. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 10:12:39 AM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>>> taffa...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Shakir ji, >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the ID. >>>>>>>>>>> However according to Wikipedia Valerians have trifoliate >>>>>>>>>>> pinnate leaves with serrated edges but here leaves are entire >>>>>>>>>>> .Veins are >>>>>>>>>>> not prominent (very different from leaves in *V.himalayana *photo >>>>>>>>>>> at EFI). Also branching appears to be dichotomous (See attached >>>>>>>>>>> photo).Also >>>>>>>>>>> altitude of Rawathpora is about1600 meters while *V.himalayana >>>>>>>>>>> *according to FOP occurs at 3000-5000m asl. Perhaps >>>>>>>>>>> identification of the species would bring more clarity. >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 10:30:00 PM UTC+5:30 Shakir Ahmad >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Valeriana sp. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:14:41 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>>>>> taffa...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please help ID this herb which has some peculiar features as >>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned below: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Habitat: Edge of lawn in Rawathpora Srinagar. Almost all >>>>>>>>>>>>> photos were taken in either the last week of April or first half >>>>>>>>>>>>> of May >>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Herb with green stem 10-15 cm high. L eaves opposite >>>>>>>>>>>>> about 5-6mm broad X 12 -15mm long. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Branching cymose. Inflorescence is compact and probably cymose >>>>>>>>>>>>> Some peculiar features: >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.Calyx gamosepalous with five lobes three narrow 0.5mmX 1.5mm >>>>>>>>>>>>> and two broad 0.5mm X1.5 mm. The calyx is fused with the ovary >>>>>>>>>>>>> and can not >>>>>>>>>>>>> be separated from it. The lobes can be clearly seen in fruit( See >>>>>>>>>>>>> photo 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>> and photo8). >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.The Corolla has 5 lobes 0.5mm long and Corolla Tube is 1.5mm >>>>>>>>>>>>> long and becomes very narrow at the bottom and seems to be >>>>>>>>>>>>> attached >>>>>>>>>>>>> directly to upper part of the ovary . In my limited experience >>>>>>>>>>>>> this is the >>>>>>>>>>>>> first time I have seen a corolla tube attached to the upper part >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> ovary.( (See photo 4,photo 5 and photo 6) >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The style is so thin and transparent that it is barely >>>>>>>>>>>>> visible but when see seen with a microscope(X50) is clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>> trifid (See >>>>>>>>>>>>> photo 7). The filaments of the 5 stamens are also very thin, >>>>>>>>>>>>> transparent >>>>>>>>>>>>> and barely visible. Because of the narrowness of the corolla tube >>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> lower portion I could not ascertain the point of attachment of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the stamens. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The fruit seems to contain a single seed.(see photo 9) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>>>> the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/fjWj_Eqav0U/unsubscribe >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email >>>>>>>>> to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/2f6a5f48-b5e9-411c-89f1-999833416e6fn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/2f6a5f48-b5e9-411c-89f1-999833416e6fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/8df45ee8-6727-41da-b4cc-c57a5e48f448n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/8df45ee8-6727-41da-b4cc-c57a5e48f448n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/fjWj_Eqav0U/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/8ff4e6f6-198e-4fd2-9bd3-044147e01747n%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/8ff4e6f6-198e-4fd2-9bd3-044147e01747n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/fjWj_Eqav0U/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/95762d51-d6f4-418b-89ac-f32244e27dc0n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/95762d51-d6f4-418b-89ac-f32244e27dc0n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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