Thanks Dinesh ji for such a detailed investigation.

On Thursday, June 20, 2024 at 11:48:07 AM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:

> Thanks, Dinesh ji
>
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> From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 at 10:35
> Subject: [efloraofindia:466070] Zingiber :: cernuum VS nimmonii
> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
>
>
> Dear friends, 
> I want to discuss about two species of *Zingiber*, namely: *cernuum* and 
> *nimmonii*. They are treated as separate identities by some and 
> synonymous by few. I see them as separate taxons, and I am using the 
> Hooker's Journal of Botany and Kew Garden Miscellany 
> <https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/787002#page/350/mode/1up> as 
> reference, to put forth my thoughts. 
> Some taxonomical portals consider these two taxa as separate:
> • Plants of the World Online <https://powo.science.kew.org/> (POWO), 
> retrieved 11 May 2024
> • Global Biodiversity Information Facility <https://www.gbif.org/> (GBIF) 
> [11 May 2024] 
> ------------------------------
> Description of Z. *Nimmonii*, Dalz. extracted from Hooker's Journal 
> [image: Description of Zingiber nimmonii (Graham) Dalzell, in Latin] 
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53712417902/> 
> Above Latin text translated to English ↓ 
> 1. Z. *Nimmonii*, Dalz.; the stem reddish-green, glabrous, with 
> lanceolate leaves, acuminate at the base with a very short slender petiole, 
> bright green above, pale and cobwebby below, the ovate ascending spike, the 
> top scarcely exserted from the ground, with inner reddish-striated bracts, 
> linear-oblong to lanceolate, acute, glabrous, bifid, the outer corolla with 
> yellowish-red fringe, the 3-lobed yellow lip, with the intermediate lobe 
> ovate-rounded, scarcely emarginate; the capsules, the size of a dove’s egg. 
> Growing in Konkan, and also in the yoke of Sahyadris; flowering July. 
> Dalzell continues ↓ 
> Although it is a maxim among naturalists that differences of colour 
> without difference of form cannot make a species, I find in making out the 
> differential characters of this genus great help in recording colour as 
> well as form, owing to the very great uniformity among the species, both as 
> regards habit and structure, even of their minutest parts. The present 
> species is by far the commonest of the three here described, and it is the 
> only one of which I am at all in doubt as to its being an undescribed 
> species, as it agrees well with the description of *Z. panduratum* of 
> Roxb. Flor. Ind., which however was not found in the Indian peninsula. The 
> species which I have now attempted to characterize is mentioned in Graham's 
> catalogue of Bombay plants, under the name of *Alpinia Nimmonii*, but at 
> that time the flowers were unknown, which is not much to be wondered at, as 
> they appear (in common with those of the other species) at a time when the 
> whole country is deluged with heavy and continued rains. 
> ------------------------------
> Description of Z. *cernuum* extracted from Hooker's Journal 
> [image: Description of Zingiber cernuum Dalzell, in Latin] 
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53713540813/> 
> Above Latin text translated to English ↓ 
> 2. Z. *cernuum*; the stem glabrous, bright green, with leaves narrowly 
> elliptic, acuminate, glabrous on both sides, the spikes ovate, obtuse, very 
> shortly pedunculate, the top scarcely exserted from the ground, with inner 
> yellow-green bracts, ovate or oblong, shortly obtuse, glabrous, shortly 
> trifid, the outer corolla with pale brown fringe, the 3-lobed lip, with the 
> intermediate white and pink ovate lobe, deeply bifid, with lateral lobes 
> painted yellow and pink. 
> Growing in Ram Ghat; flowering July. 
> Dalzell continues ↓ 
> This is the smallest of the three species here described. The apex of the 
> leafy stem is always somewhat curved; beside this mark, it may be readily 
> distinguished by its bright green stems, never having a tint of any other 
> colour. The habit and form are entirely those of the preceding, but the 
> colouring of the lip is the handsomest of any species I have seen. Fruit 
> yellowish-white, smooth; seeds (unripe) red, striated, with membranous 
> aril. 
> ------------------------------
> Illustrations of the discussed species 
> [image: Slide1 stem and flower of Zingiber cernuum Dalzell] 
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53714638322/> 
> [image: Slide2 fruit and seed of Zingiber cernuum Dalzell] 
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53715982000/> 
> [image: Slide3 dissected flower parts of Zingiber nimmonii (Graham) 
> Dalzell] <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53715548761/> 
> [image: Slide4 stem of Zingiber nimmonii (Graham) Dalzell] 
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53714638292/> 
> [image: Slide5 flower of cernuum and nimmonii] 
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53715887299/> 
> [image: Slide6 stem of cernuum and nimmonii] 
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53715887294/> 
> [image: Slide7 stem of cernuum and nimmonii] 
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/53714638332/> 
> ------------------------------
> I see the discussed species as separate, based on the illustrations shown 
> above. The photos belong to respective owners, and have their own 
> copyrights. Annotations on the illustrations are purely mine. The plants in 
> the photos agree very well to the descriptions found in the Hooker's Journal 
> of Botany and Kew Garden Miscellany 
> <https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/787002#page/350/mode/1up>. 
> Distribution of the discussed species 
> • *Zingiber cernuum* Dalzell 
> India (Goa, Karnataka, Maharashtra) 
> • *Zingiber nimmonii* (Graham) Dalzell 
> India (Karnataka, Kerala, Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu); Myanmar (Mandalay) 
> ... Hassler, Michael (1994 - 2023): World Plants. Synonymic Checklist and 
> Distribution of the World Flora. 
> <https://www.worldplants.de/world-plants-complete-list/complete-plant-list> 
> Version 19.2; last update April 17th, 2024. - www.worldplants.de. Last 
> accessed 11/05/2024. 
> ~~~~~ Last updated: 10:17 15-06-2024 ~~~~~
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