Sorry Taffazul ji, I thought veins are prickly beneath Please look for these characters 1. leaves entire or rarely toothed, less than 1 cm broad in L. indica, at least lower runcinate-pinnatifid with spinulose margin and midrib beneath in L. serriola 2. Leaves not clasping or weekly clasping at base L. indica, distinctly clasping in L. serriola 3. Achene beak less than 2 mm long L. indica, 3.5-5 mm long in L. serriola 4. Achene bodyl winged with one prominent rib on either side in L. indica, not winged with 7-9 ribs on either side in L. serriola
If it really turns out to be L. indica, It may be a new Record for Kashmir, the species occurs between Please compare with these links http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200024114 https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=6256&type=4 and for serriola http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242328083 https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=6258&type=4 Please note that L. indica looks very similar to L. dolichophylla (syn: L. longifolia DC of FBI) in which florets are blue and also as FBI writes: Habit of L. Iongifolia and as tall, but the leaves are never pinnatifid and want the sagittate base ; the achenes are quite different, very flat, black, \ in. long, includ ing the beak, with one strong median rib on each face and 4 more slender lateral ones on each side of the dorsal face; the base of the beak is black in this (white in Ionat' J'olia); the pappus is dirty-white or yellowish. Ligules pale yellow within, purplish outside in Assam (Griffith), sulphur yellow in China (Ilance in litt.). Wish you best of luck I had written you privately but did not get response. I wanter to know if you have done Botany M.Sc. from Kashmir University, and if so need your WhatsApp number to add you to our Alumni Group. Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 4:48 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > According to a local villager Mr.Anwar its Kashmiri name is* Doodich > Ghas *literally meaning grass with milk. > This is exactly what *Lactuca *means in Latin. > Regards > Taffazull > On Thursday, August 15, 2024 at 4:45:47 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] > wrote: > >> Dear Gurcharan Ji, >> Thanks for clarifying >> Regards >> >> On Thursday, August 15, 2024 at 4:41:44 PM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh wrote: >> >>> Sorry Taffazul ji, I thought there are prickles on the midrib, >>> Look for Lactuca sativa, the wild form. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 4:01 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Gucharan ji, >>>> Thanks for ID >>>> It is interesting that not only leaves are undivided but spines on >>>> midrib are also absent. >>>> I was under the misconception that spines on midrib are a >>>> characteristic of L .serriola. >>>> Thanks for clarifying >>>> Regards >>>> Taffazull >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 12:26:33 PM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think L. serriola only, leaves can be undivided sometimes >>>>> >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121239&flora_id=2 >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 4:19:36 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Outer phyllary is 3mm ,middle about 5mm and inner about 7mm >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/c6d1dc41-0eab-410b-a8d6-10640a86e661n%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/c6d1dc41-0eab-410b-a8d6-10640a86e661n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "eFloraofIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/ea39ff54-181c-4255-9fb3-4d7561dab79en%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/ea39ff54-181c-4255-9fb3-4d7561dab79en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpV%3DrCfF2uDjvbCjYgFmum1gZ2CDYsWBY-6%3DkkHQunaoGg%40mail.gmail.com.
