Dear Dr. Biswas: That's dedication... do you get nice flowers? have you got seeds? usha di
Rakesh Biswas to me show details 10:55 PM (9 hours ago) Thanks Ushadi for this very interesting piece. I have a nice Sthalpadma ( hibiscus mutabilis ) here in Bhopal brought from Kolkata. On Apr 8, 9:51 pm, Ushadi micromini <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, Dr. Singh, I get this here at the 5 star hotels that fly them in > from Indonesia...matter of fact I photographed my lunch plate one day > 3 -4 years ago...much to the chef's chagrin because the manager > thought we may be from other hotel and copying their > dishes!!!....modern fears!! your pictures are nice...Usha di. > > On Apr 8, 9:07 pm, Ushadi micromini <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear All and Mr. Bhatt... not so fast, ha ha... > > I'll add to your confusion (and mine)... > > The so called real Brahma Kamal *Saussurea obvallata* is only one of > > the pictures in the flicker group labeled as Brahma Kamal.... > > The rest of the pictures in the flicker group are a plants group that > > I know of as NITE BLOMMING CEREUS.... > > One of which is *Epiphyllum oxypetalum*..I had one growing in my > > apartment, dining room table in NY, from a cutting from THE HIMALAYAN > > INSTITUTE in Pennsylvania... where it apparently had some spiritual > > meaning to the core group of devotees of Swami Rama, who would stay up > > thru the nite when one bud was about ready to open, being a full moon > > nite in summer (its bat pollinated, and being white it is best to open > > during a bright nite , I guess)...they did not call it Brahma Kamal > > though.. and this is the one found in Southern Indian states and > > called there..brahma kamal.. and is photographed the most and > > published in the flicker group .... > > > Other nite blooming cereus I have seen in botanical gardens is the one > > called Hylocereus undatus (Red Pitaya or dragon fruit) ..very similar > > flowers but stems are different and growing habits etc and seeds are > > different sizes and numbers in fruits of *epiphyllum oxypetalum*. > > > There are several other plants with similar flowers which bloom at > > nite... and are called nite blooming cereus...wikipedia has a short > > list at : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightblooming_cereus#cite_note-2. > > And I QUOTE FROM IT > > "(( Night-blooming cereus, also called Queen of the night or Reina de > > la noche, are names of several genera and species of nightblooming > > cactus, including: > > * Echinopsis, e.g. E. pachanoi (San Pedro Cactus) > > * Epiphyllum, e.g. E. oxypetalum (Dutchman's Pipe Cactus) > > * Hylocereus, e.g. H. undatus (Red Pitaya or dragon fruit) > > * Peniocereus, e.g. P. greggii (Arizona Queen-of-the-night) > > * Selenicereus, e.g. S. grandiflorus (Vanilla Cactus), probably > > the most famous))" END QUOTE .. > > > Sorry to do this but it had me confused for a long time in > > 1991 ...when I first acquired the cutting and did not have wikipedia > > then... had to impose on the librarians at the NY botanical garden... > > who helped a great deal... > > > This also goes to show us (me) that just like many regions of the > > world call different plants nite blooming cereus, two regions in India > > call different plants Brahma Kamal... > > > To add to the confusion *Saussurea obvallata* is often called > > STHALAPADMINI (by Kalidasa) or STHALAPADMA in sanskrit ... And here > > in Calcutta, West Bengal *Hibiscus mutabilis* is called sthalpadma or > > sthalopoddo as it is pronounced locally, there are several growing in > > gardens in my neighborhood... > > Regards, > > Ushadi > > > On Apr 8, 6:02 pm, Anand Kumar Bhatt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Thank you Tabish, Pankaj and Mahadeshwara. The confusion is over. > > > ak > > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Mahadeswara <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > In Souther india Epiphyllum oxypetalum is regarded as the Brahma > > > > kamal, though Saussurea obvallata is supposed to be the real brahma > > > > kamal. I have one in my house, which would flower during the hot > > > > summer (mostly May) during night. > > > > > On Apr 8, 3:39 am, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > There is a slok in sanskrit which says, offering a single brahmakamal > > > > > to god is equivalent to offering 1000 flowers. I am eagerly waiting > > > > > for someone to share this slok as it is planned to be a part of one of > > > > > our articles on this plant. This is referred to Saussurea obvallata > > > > > which is highly fragrant. You can smell it from a distance. Even the > > > > > leaves have smell and it is found on higher altitudes. > > > > > These pictures were taken on the other side of Hemkunt lake (which is > > > > > a forbidden zone for tourists). In the third pic on the backgroun id > > > > > the lake and the famous Sikh pilgrim place called Hemkunt Sahib. > > > > > In the link provided by Bhatt sir, there is infact one Saussurea > > > > > obvallata rest are cactus, Epiphyllum oxypetalum. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Pankaj > > > > > > -- > > > > > *********************************************** > > > > > "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" > > > > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > > > > > Research Associate > > > > > Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project > > > > > Department of Habitat Ecology > > > > > Wildlife Institute of India > > > > > Post Box # 18 > > > > > Dehradun - 248001, India > > > > > > -- > > > > > *********************************************** > > > > > "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" > > > > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > > > > > Research Associate > > > > > Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project > > > > > Department of Habitat Ecology > > > > > Wildlife Institute of India > > > > > Post Box # 18 > > > > > Dehradun - 248001, India > > > > > > Slide101.JPG > > > > > 1187KViewDownload > > > > > > Slide102.JPG > > > > > 726KViewDownload > > > > > > Slide103.JPG > > > > > 598KViewDownload > > > > -- > > > Anand Kumar Bhatt > > > A-59, B.S.F.Colony, Airport Road > > > Gwalior. 474 005. > > > Tele: 0751-247 2233. 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