A further reply: "Well, yes, you could be right - for some specimens, but if the sori are a bit smallish and the frond is folded then they wouldn't often be visible. When the frond is expanded they can easily be seen from the top side, but not often when in this dessicated state. Actually I've tried expanding the photo to see if one can see anything of the sori from the top surface, but it looses its focus then. Anyway - possibilities, possibilities, enough of speculation from me! - as Botanists we need proof of either possible identity. Can the collector please now soak out a fertile frond in water and let it uncurl and expand, then photograph its underside, and we'll know then which of the two it is! I'll be happy to change my mind when I see that! Cheers, CRFJ."
On 27 June 2011 10:09, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > A reply from Vijayadas ji: > "Thanks, > > In lepisorus sori will be bold and visible even if the front folded > > Sir, am I right ?" > > > On 27 June 2011 08:19, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A reply: >> "I didn't see the other reply before I wrote. But both those Pyrrosias >> mentioned have a long creeping rhizome with fronds far apart and not so long >> or twisted. However one must soak the thing in a bucket of water for 24 >> hours to expand properly, and then press it. If it were a Pyrrosia the >> underside is scaly (apart from in P. nuda), and the sori are much smaller >> and very crowded in comparison to the Lepisorus. Aso the leaf in those >> species is a lot thicker and does not fold as much as in this Lepisorus and >> if it does fold, folds upward, not downward. >> P. longifolia is not present in South India at all! - and has a much >> thicker leaf again and yet longer rhizome. Only one dubious record of P. >> longifolia from India altogether has not yet been resolved - Singh & >> Panigrahi's (2005) report, of a single collection from Changlang, Arunachal >> Pradesh, but the specimen has been removed from Shillong herbarium and I am >> anxiously waiting for it to be returned so we can see if it is really P. >> longifolia. The authors agreed it was rather different from P. longifolia, a >> species present in S.E. Asia, but until I can see the specimen one doesn't >> know if the species might be present in India or not - but the drawing >> doesn't look right to me. Other records of P. longifolia in India are in >> error. >> Best wishes, >> Chris Fraser-Jenkins." >> >> Thanks, Dr. Chris. >> >> On 26 June 2011 16:56, Vijayadas D <dvijaya...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It is an epiphytic Fern, rarely lithophytic >>> >>> Pyrrosia sps. P. longifolia or lanceolata >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 12:47 PM, J.M. 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You can also use >> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1600 members & >> 70,000 messages on 30/5/11) or Efloraofindia website: >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of >> around 5000 species) >> >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* & > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > alphabetically & place-wise): > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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